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mrpotto
08-17-2007, 10:12 AM
No reads. Feels like villain has something good and I should fold. Agree?

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
6 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)

Stack sizes:
hero: $65.15
UTG+1: $73.55
CO: $9.25
Button: $15.90
SB: $59.95
BB: $42.65

Pre-flop: (6 players) hero is UTG with J/images/graemlins/club.gif J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif
<font color="#cc0000">hero raises to $2</font>, 3 folds, SB calls $1.75 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was $2.75)</font>, BB folds.

Flop: 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif ($4.5, 2 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">hero bets $4.5</font>, SB calls $4.5 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was $9)</font>.

Turn: 3/images/graemlins/club.gif ($13.5, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $8</font>, hero ???


Hand 2

Again no reads. What could he limp with and now raise big with?

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
6 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)

Stack sizes:
UTG: $29
UTG+1: $59.50
CO: $45
Button: $72.45
hero: $50
BB: $17.55

Pre-flop: (6 players) hero is SB with A/images/graemlins/spade.gif Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif
UTG calls $0.5 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was $0.75)</font>, UTG+1 calls $0.5 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was $1.25)</font>, CO calls $0.5 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was $1.75)</font>, Button folds, <font color="#cc0000">hero raises to $3.75</font>, 2 folds, UTG+1 calls $3.25 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was $5.5)</font>, CO calls $3.25 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was $8.75)</font>.

Flop: Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif T/images/graemlins/spade.gif 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif ($12.25, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">hero bets $12.25</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises to $24.5</font>, CO folds, <font color="#cc0000">hero ???

DaycareInferno
08-17-2007, 10:17 AM
hand 1 i would call and reevaluate on the river. i don't think you're beat there an overwhelming ammount of the time or anything.

hand 2, i'm going to put the rest of my money in on the flop. if there wasn't already so much money in the pot, i could probably get away from that hand, but not on this one.

Mrage
08-17-2007, 10:25 AM
Hand 1 I probably also call the turn bet, I do see this line with sets quite often but I also see stupid OOP floats like this also. If he then bets out strong on the river it's probably legit and you can fold, if he checks or bets some retarded amount you're probably good.

Hand 2 I probably don't pot the flop, I probably bet out about 10. I'm folding to the raise without a read that he just loves to play draws this way.

Check_The_Nuts
08-17-2007, 10:25 AM
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hand 1 i would call and reevaluate on the river. i don't think you're beat there an overwhelming ammount of the time or anything.

hand 2, i'm going to put the rest of my money in on the flop. if there wasn't already so much money in the pot, i could probably get away from that hand, but not on this one.

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Also flop bet sizing sucks.

mrpotto
08-17-2007, 10:42 AM
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Also flop bet sizing sucks.

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Please elaborate. Which hand? Thanks.

Check_The_Nuts
08-17-2007, 10:45 AM
2nd hand, way too much man.

corsakh
08-17-2007, 10:53 AM
Hand 1 He is drawing, so raise it.

Hand 2 Fold flop.

Ye, cbet a little less.

mrpotto
08-17-2007, 10:54 AM
Ok -fair enough. I tend to overuse Full Tilts "bet pot" button. You think around $8 ish would be better?