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michaelantoi
08-17-2007, 07:00 AM
Villain is 15/7/2

Seat 1: <font color="#000000">CO</font> ($88,40)
Seat 3: <font color="#990000">Hero</font> ($89,90)
Seat 5: <font color="#000000">SB</font> ($42,20)
Seat 10: <font color="#000000">BB</font> ($46,25)

<font color="#000000">SB</font> posts small blind of $0,25
<font color="#000000">BB</font> posts big blind of $0,50

<font color="#990000">Hero</font> is dealt Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif,Q/images/graemlins/club.gif

<font color="#000000">CO</font> calls $0,50
<font color="#990000">Hero</font> raises to $2,50
<font color="#000000">SB</font> folds
<font color="#000000">BB</font> raises to $8,25
<font color="#000000">CO</font> folds
<font color="#990000">Hero</font> calls $5,75


Dealing flop 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif,6/images/graemlins/heart.gif,9/images/graemlins/heart.gif
Pot is: $17,75

<font color="#000000">BB</font> bets $11,00

Hero??

members_only
08-17-2007, 08:25 AM
Pitch it

Villain presumably has quite a tight 3-betting range and as you say this is a pretty poor flop for you to continue on

corsakh
08-17-2007, 08:27 AM
Flat and shove non heart turn.

monkeymaps
08-17-2007, 08:44 AM
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Flat and shove non heart turn.

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meh that is pretty much a bluff? Id prob do the same but IDK pretty much flipping or crushed agianst anything that calls flop if we get aggressive, we are assuming his range is AK KK AA maybe JJ?

corsakh
08-17-2007, 08:46 AM
How is this a bluff? Pure value. I just don't want to shove flop giving him so much equity with AK.

Mrage
08-17-2007, 09:14 AM
To hell with that nit, I doubt he even 3bets AK tbh, probably just QQ+, maybe maybe maybe JJ, and even if he does we still have crappy equity vs. his range.

bob_sacamano
08-17-2007, 09:31 AM
gamble 1 buy-in in that spot? don't seem too strong for me.

I'd fold the flop.

monkeymaps
08-17-2007, 10:34 AM
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How is this a bluff? Pure value. I just don't want to shove flop giving him so much equity with AK.

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what calls turn push that we are in good shape agianst? only hand we are getting value from is JJ IMO AK with a heart doesnt call turn IMO

corsakh
08-17-2007, 10:36 AM
Turn is going to be 25 into 40.

Stonewalled
08-17-2007, 10:43 AM
Against this Villain, I fold. The combination of his range (probably AA-JJ, AK-AQ), and of course the real possibility that he has flush cards in his hand make this a bad spot for you.

monkeymaps
08-17-2007, 10:43 AM
yeah this is pretty close for me villians stats just seem so nitty. I hear what your saying but seems like villian looks us up with AA KK and folds AK with a heart even if he is getting decent odds here tight players dont usally like to play for stacks with one card to come.

I dont hate a turn push just not sure if its for value or not.

corsakh
08-17-2007, 10:45 AM
You are seeing monsters.

members_only
08-17-2007, 11:06 AM
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corsakh
08-17-2007, 11:07 AM
BB has 25 left.

members_only
08-17-2007, 11:25 AM
oops sorry for some reason i suddenly got it into my head he was playing against co

Mrage
08-17-2007, 11:38 AM
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You are seeing monsters.

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Exactly what is wrong with seeing monsters when being 3bet by Nitty McNit? His range has us crushed and we have about 0 FE...

corsakh
08-17-2007, 11:40 AM
If you think he does not 3bet AK, just fold preflop then.

Mrage
08-17-2007, 12:53 PM
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If you think he does not 3bet AK, just fold preflop then.

[/ QUOTE ]Considering the size of the reraise relative to his stack, this might not be a bad idea. How many hands did you have on this guy OP?

Hail Eris
08-17-2007, 12:56 PM
Just fold PF. 15/7 3bet range is like QQ+.

sightless
08-17-2007, 01:00 PM
fold pf