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Love2AceYou
08-02-2007, 11:32 PM
Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker (http://www.legopoker.com) Hand History Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

SB: $24.90
BB: $25.00
Hero (UTG): $12.80
MP: $26.30
CO: $33.50
BTN: $12.10

Preflop: Hero is dealt 8http://legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif 8http://legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif (6 Players)
Hero calls $0.25, MP calls $0.25, <font color="red">CO raises to $1.25</font>, 3 folds, Hero calls $1.00, MP calls $1.00

Flop: ($4.10) 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif Qhttp://legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif Thttp://legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif (3 Players)
Hero checks, MP checks, <font color="red">CO bets $1.25</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises all-in to $11.55</font>, MP folds, CO calls $10.30

Turn: ($27.20) 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif Qhttp://legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif Thttp://legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif Khttp://legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif (2 Players - 1 All-In)

River: ($27.20) 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif Qhttp://legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif Thttp://legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif Khttp://legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif 6http://legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif (2 Players - 1 All-In)

Pot Size: $27.20 ($1.35 Rake)

CO had T/images/graemlins/spade.gif A/images/graemlins/heart.gif and LOST (-$12.80)
Hero had 8http://legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif 8http://legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif (three of a kind, Eights) and WON (+$13.05)

shoxbb6
08-02-2007, 11:34 PM
Don't play shortstacked, dont limp/call preflop

Spurious
08-02-2007, 11:41 PM
dont play shortstacked
dont openlimp pf
bet out on that flop, many draws are out there
check raise allin is too strong on that flop but he called you because you were shortstacked imo


i recommend you to read all the articles in the sticky, get a proper bankroll, if necessary move down in limits and play big stack poker

Nick C
08-03-2007, 12:09 AM
In terms of results, there's nothing to complain about for you in this hand.

I think CO's call of your all-in checkraise on the flop was pretty bad, though. That said, if he had made a regular-sized c-bet in the first place, your checkraise would not have been such a big overpush. And you options were kind of limited (well, once you check and he just bets $1.25), given your stack size, since a normal ~pot-sized checkraise would basically be a obvious invitation to play for stacks anyway.

In any event, leading into the preflop raiser on the flop makes some sense here. It makes use of your relative position (with MP trapped in between) and also would make it simpler to get your stack in without really representing the monster hand you actually have.

dividius
08-03-2007, 12:55 AM
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In terms of results, there's nothing to complain about for you in this hand.

I think CO's call of your all-in checkraise on the flop was pretty bad, though. That said, if he had made a regular-sized c-bet in the first place, your checkraise would not have been such a big overpush. And you options were kind of limited (well, once you check and he just bets $1.25), given your stack size, since a normal ~pot-sized checkraise would basically be a obvious invitation to play for stacks anyway.

In any event, leading into the preflop raiser on the flop makes some sense here. It makes use of your relative position (with MP trapped in between) and also would make it simpler to get your stack in without really representing the monster hand you actually have.

[/ QUOTE ]Yup.

automaton_22
08-03-2007, 01:14 AM
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dont limp/call preflop

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What? Can't we call with this hand UTG for set value? Are we really raising this up from UTG? This is a situation where I call all the time, is this a leak?

I know we often just call with a hand like 88 from the blinds, how different is UTG?

What happens when we raise and get called? We are out of position with a medium PP.

SMACK BOOTY
08-03-2007, 01:28 AM
I don't want to get into the small/mid PP limping argument, but limping here is fine, don't let the other posters convince you that you violated some fundamental principle. I find mixing it up to works out the best for me, but limping is no crime.
But you have to bet this draw heavy board in hopes you get raised. As played, villian's call was bad, prolly a function of you being shortstacked.
PS...stop playing short, drop down in stakes if you need to.

siccjay
08-03-2007, 03:49 AM
Limping here is not fine and is a crime.

Spurious
08-03-2007, 04:02 AM
I hate limping here. It might be ok, because hero doesnt have a bigstack.
If you openlimp from UTG, the whole table will limp behind. You wont take down the pot on the flop. I raise PPs UTG all the time. Most of the time i'm playing OOP, but if they coldcall, they are in a fit-or-fold mode and if i bet into them on the flop, they'll show me if they like their hand.

mitsu1775
08-03-2007, 04:06 AM
I'm starting to think i'm the only winning player in micro that buys in short for a large percentage of the time....

Love2AceYou
08-03-2007, 06:50 PM
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I don't want to get into the small/mid PP limping argument, but limping here is fine, don't let the other posters convince you that you violated some fundamental principle. I find mixing it up to works out the best for me, but limping is no crime.
But you have to bet this draw heavy board in hopes you get raised. As played, villian's call was bad, prolly a function of you being shortstacked.
PS...stop playing short, drop down in stakes if you need to.

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First off thanks for all your suggestions, they really help. Secondly I read the comment about dropping down in stakes more than once. Now, I only have about $300 in my bankroll. What stakes should I play. What's the general guidline to follow by?