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RichAM
08-02-2007, 04:04 AM
I wanted to just post all 3 of these hands in one post that way I don't flutter up the board.

Hand 1

<font color="blue">Read: Villain is 15/13/11 after 192 hands and is a regular playing 4 tables.</font>

The question is, can I get away from this hand. Do I just c/c to showdown? I believe doing this is very weak.

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Hero ($54.40)
Button ($25.75)
SB ($10.65)
BB ($25.50)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, T/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $3</font>, Hero calls $2.

Flop: ($6.10) 8/images/graemlins/club.gif, 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $4.3</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $12</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $22.5</font>, Hero calls $10.50.

Turn: ($51.10) 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: ($51.10) 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: $51.10


Hand 2

<font color="blue">Read: No real reads. Villain is 50/0 after 6 hands.</font>

Do I lead out on the turn or just c/c? Do I value bet this river or be happy to get a cheap showdown? After he checked I knew I should have value bet but I have no reads here.

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BB ($20.55)
UTG ($25)
MP ($22.40)
Button ($22.45)
Hero ($25.25)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls $0.25, Button calls $0.25, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($1) 5/images/graemlins/club.gif, T/images/graemlins/spade.gif, J/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $0.75</font>, BB calls $0.75, MP calls $0.75, Button folds.

Turn: ($3.25) A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets $3</font>, MP folds, Hero calls $3.

River: ($9.25) 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks.

Final Pot: $9.25


Hand 3

<font color="blue">Read: Villain is 45/25 over 31 hands. No real reads.</font>

Do I try to extract more by just calling. I thought about doing this but if he has a FD then I want to make him pay for it. I think if it was a Rainbow flop I would have slow played it more.

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MP ($25)
Button ($25.95)
Hero ($25.15)
BB ($10.55)
UTG ($11.25)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 9/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1</font>, BB calls $0.75.

Flop: ($2) 2/images/graemlins/club.gif, 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $1.75</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $3.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $13</font>, BB folds.

Final Pot: $9

shoxbb6
08-02-2007, 04:16 AM
Hand 1, Don't like a raise here. You're folding out the only hand you beat (AK) and villain isn't folding any overpair.

Hand 2, Check/calling the turn is fine here. Definitely lead the river, you don't want to get a cheap showdown when your hand is disguised and villain will pay you off with weak Ax or Jx hands.

Hand 3, This is fine, need to protect your hand and I doubt a minraiser is letting an ace go if he has one.

justhetip
08-02-2007, 04:34 AM
Hand 1 - fold to the raise. If he is good/spewy enough to do this with AK then fine, but he has shown you preflop and post that he has a strong hand. From his stats, I would guess that his version of a strong hand is better than TT.

Hand 2 is played really well, just bet river most of the time, unless you want to extract value from whiffed draws, I like this hand a lot.

Hand 3 - stack sizes dictate he should put in his whole stack at some point in this hand. I like how you played it, although an alternative is to call the flop raise and use position on the turn, although this may be results oriented. My point is that after his flop raise he should only have $6 left, and if he follows up on the turn, any raise should pot commit him.

RichAM
08-02-2007, 04:48 AM
After listening to what you say and looking over the Hand 1 countless times I believe I see a place to fold.

The thing is, during those 192 hands this is the only hand I got into it with him. When he raised me from the BB he knows he is out of position and knows I'm a solid player raising from UTG. This should have set off alarm bells in my head but it didn't. I can tell you this won't happen to me again.