NL50 64K PT graph, where are my leaks?

[JROK777]

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Can you guys see any leaks that I have? Comment on anything that you would like.

[Man Our Units]

I think you are going to showdown less often than you should be...you may be betting too much on turns, or folding to much on turns. And I think you W$@SD is a tad lower than it should be. Could be value betting too thinly or calling bets on river to thin. Just looking at stats alone cant help plug leaks post big losses here and have people go over them. You are allotted two strategy posts a day, post your two biggest net losses of the day every day here and see what people say.

[relativity_x]

looks like you're playing bad out of the blinds.

Also, your wtsd is fine. Your w@sd is just running bad.

[hennnerz]

You win with AA too much.

[hennnerz]

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looks like you're playing bad out of the blinds.

Also, your wtsd is fine. Your w@sd is just running bad.

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Running bad over 64k...lol

[Xanta]

Stop [censored] 9tabling.

[Xanta]

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looks like you're playing bad out of the blinds.

Also, your wtsd is fine. Your w@sd is just running bad.

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Running bad over 64k...lol

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Ummm, you can def run bad over that long. Uncommon, but until you get a couple hundred K hands its tough to tell for sure.

[Man Our Units]

Search google for Sklansky Bucks Calculator and go through that thread to find it. Post the results here.

[Brooklyn]

biggest leak I see is that you can still play on party poker and yet you have 10 windows open in full tilt

[blackice781]

your AF is too high. lowering this will naturally increase your wtsd and probably increase your w%@sd.

also, you are probably playing midpairs wrong.

[K䲰䮥n]

What would be the "optimal" stats (for someone with 24/20) for:

Went to showdown %
Won $ at showdown %
Folded BB/SB to steal %
VPIP from the SB %

[Man Our Units]

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What would be the "optimal" stats (for someone with 24/20) for:

Went to showdown %
Won $ at showdown %
Folded BB/SB to steal %
VPIP from the SB %

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I dont think anyone can really say for sure what is optimum with those stats. All we have to go off of is just other winning players stats. With that said I have been playing around with a new strategy and playing at 20/16 and :

Went to showdown % - 27.04%
Won $ at showdown % - 56.08%
Folded BB/SB to steal % - 84.73/84.88
VPIP from the SB % - 25.61%

All at 50NL and am running at 8.68BB/100 which I am content with.

[blackice781]

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What would be the "optimal" stats (for someone with 24/20) for:

Went to showdown %
Won $ at showdown %
Folded BB/SB to steal %
VPIP from the SB %

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I dont think anyone can really say for sure what is optimum with those stats. All we have to go off of is just other winning players stats. With that said I have been playing around with a new strategy and playing at 20/16 and :

Went to showdown % - 27.04%
Won $ at showdown % - 56.08%
Folded BB/SB to steal % - 84.73/84.88
VPIP from the SB % - 25.61%

All at 50NL and am running at 8.68BB/100 which I am content with.

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how big is the sample size and what site are you playing on?

[JROK777]

What do you guess that I am doing wrong w/mid pairs? Are you speaking about 77 on a A52 rainbow flop or JTs on a AT2 rainbow flop? If I was the PFR I would cbet both flops and c/f turn vs. 2 or less villians. If I was HU, I'd bet JT again on the turn unimproved. Prolly c/f the river oop. If I had just called PF with these hands, Id c/f 77 and prolly call 1 bet w JT if it was HU. Multiway as a PF caller I'd just c/f both hands.

[Man Our Units]

Sample is over 25k hands so still smallish, and it doesnt matter what site I am playing on. But, I have stacked you at PS. LOLOLOL bet you cant find me.

[monkover]

you´re not winning often enough at sd

[prodonkey]

going to showdown 19% of time.. and only winning 45% of the time is not a good combo. I'm around 25%/55%

[K䲰䮥n]

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you´re not winning often enough at sd

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Okay, now tell the OP how to improve his game based on that stat /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[K䲰䮥n]

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going to showdown 19% of time.. and only winning 45% of the time is not a good combo. I'm around 25%/55%

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What are the most common leaks for someone to develop stats like OP's?

[blackice781]

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What do you guess that I am doing wrong w/mid pairs? Are you speaking about 77 on a A52 rainbow flop or JTs on a AT2 rainbow flop? If I was the PFR I would cbet both flops and c/f turn vs. 2 or less villians. If I was HU, I'd bet JT again on the turn unimproved. Prolly c/f the river oop. If I had just called PF with these hands, Id c/f 77 and prolly call 1 bet w JT if it was HU. Multiway as a PF caller I'd just c/f both hands.

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i'm talking about 88-JJ PF. i don't know what it is, but you should be making more than $65 over 64k hands with at least one of those hands.

[relativity_x]

too aggressive with big hands.

[Event Duality]

Maybe you just can't play a 25/20 style profitably.

[Jaap]

Personaly I think your leaks are mostly postflop. Experiment with playing TAG. This brings you the monies fo sure at 50NL. People don't fold often enough, and aren't observing so you are just leaking away playing LAG. I think you c-bet to much playing this style and maybe have trouble knowing when you're behind/infront.
After a downswing I am now playing standard TAG at the microlimits and starting to realise this is probably the most optimal style. I sometimes open up my play under good conditions, but my standard play is just solid TAG.
Remember that LAG is works optimal against weak tight players, and at this limits most fish are LAP.

[blackice781]

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Personaly I think your leaks are mostly postflop. Experiment with playing TAG. This brings you the monies fo sure at 50NL. People don't fold often enough, and aren't observing so you are just leaking away playing LAG. I think you c-bet to much playing this style and maybe have trouble knowing when you're behind/infront.
After a downswing I am now playing standard TAG at the microlimits and starting to realise this is probably the most optimal style. I sometimes open up my play under good conditions, but my standard play is just solid TAG.
Remember that LAG is works optimal against weak tight players, and at this limits most fish are LAP.

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could not have put it better myself. very good stuff.

[Man Our Units]

I think playing too TAG at 50 is retarded. Especially on PS, but thanks to guys like you I am making money. So thanks?

[blackice781]

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I think playing too TAG at 50 is retarded. Especially on PS, but thanks to guys like you I am making money. So thanks?

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i'm 21/17. i don't think that's too TAG.

sit with me anytime, you're always welcome.

[SoMarginal]

its much easier to find leaks if someone can watch you play...looking at PT stats can locate obvious leaks but getting someone that knows what they are doing will improve your win stats 10 fold....I think your agro factor is fine btw for a TAG style but your playing more LAG so they should be MUCH lower, something along the lines of 4.5-3-2.