25NL AKo Tough spot

[ZillaB]

I just sat down at this table so no initial reads.

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

zolitailor: $14.65
wackz: $24.65
fredrikp: $42.10
Rawbzilla: $32.60
Hero: $25.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt K/images/graemlins/heart.gif A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (5 Players)
<font color="red">fredrikp raises to $0.50</font>, Rawbzilla folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1.85</font>, 2 folds, fredrikp calls $1.35

Flop: ($4.05) T/images/graemlins/club.gif 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif A/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 Players)
<font color="red">fredrikp bets $2.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $7.00</font>, fredrikp calls $5.00

Turn: ($18.05) 4/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 Players)
<font color="red">fredrikp bets $10.50</font>, <font color="red">Hero:??</font>

[orig!naL]

I hate playing marginal spots aggressively when I just sat down and I have no reads at all. The only assumption you can make is villain may be semi-competent since he's big stacked.

I think I would fold this turn and wait for a better spot. I doubt the turn card improved his hand.. looks to me like 2-pair or a set off the flop... I'm leaning more towards set with the min-raise pre and call, regardless, I don't think we're good here enough to make it +EV without reads

[murmeltier21]

call flop and reevaluate turn against an unknown.

[ZillaB]

One of the reasons why I played aggressive on the flop was he donk bet into me for half the pot, which kinda threw me off.

[zooot]

FWIW - I often interpret a small donkbet like this in the same way - as a weak donkish play that calls for aggression.

I am learning at uNL that until I have evidence on what villain's donkbets may mean, or that he even understands raise sizing in relation to the pot, I can't assume too much even w/ a good, but non-nutz, hand like TPTK.

Not saying whether to raise or call in this case, but rather not to immediately assume too much against unknown opponents at 25NL.

My 2 cents.

[kitchma]

given stack sizes its either fold or push. I think you have to push here. He might have AT, but you are way ahead of his entire range (TT+, AJs+, KQs, ATo+). I also think it is possible that he picked up a combo draw on the turn.

[+EV]

[ QUOTE ]
I just sat down at this table so no initial reads.

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

zolitailor: $14.65
wackz: $24.65
fredrikp: $42.10
Rawbzilla: $32.60
Hero: $25.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt K/images/graemlins/heart.gif A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (5 Players)
<font color="red">fredrikp raises to $0.50</font>, Rawbzilla folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1.85</font>, 2 folds, fredrikp calls $1.35

Flop: ($4.05) T/images/graemlins/club.gif 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif A/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 Players)
<font color="red">fredrikp bets $2.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $7.00</font>, fredrikp calls $5.00

Turn: ($18.05) 4/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 Players)
<font color="red">fredrikp bets $10.50</font>, <font color="red">Hero:??</font>

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You have committed over 1/3 of your stack by raising on the flop. This is a turn push.

+EV

[+EV]

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call flop and reevaluate turn against an unknown.

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This is for pot control?

+EV

[InsideEdge]

Push,

Youd be suprised how often you get paid by things like AQ, AJ. Does look like he's taking you to value town though /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[reef2287]

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given stack sizes its either fold or push. I think you have to push here. He might have AT, but you are way ahead of his entire range (TT+, AJs+, KQs, ATo+)

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most likely OOP is not betting kq, tt has you dominated, a10 is a possibility but aj and aq are also possibilities, i hate to lose my stack in marginal situations so i lean towards folding, but with 1/3 of your stack already invested i guess i push, expecting to lose about 50 percent of the time, he didn't reraise us pre, which makes me lean away from pocket 10s and up, just hard with no reads on villan

[ZillaB]

here are the actual results:
Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

zolitailor: $14.65
wackz: $24.65
fredrikp: $42.10
Rawbzilla: $32.60
Hero: $25.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt K/images/graemlins/heart.gif A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (5 Players)
<font color="red">fredrikp raises to $0.50</font>, Rawbzilla folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1.85</font>, 2 folds, fredrikp calls $1.35

Flop: ($4.05) T/images/graemlins/club.gif 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif A/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 Players)
<font color="red">fredrikp bets $2.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $7.00</font>, fredrikp calls $5.00

Turn: ($18.05) 4/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 Players)
<font color="red">fredrikp bets $10.50</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises all-in to $16.15</font>, fredrikp calls $5.65

River: ($50.35) T/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 Players - 1 All-In)

Pot Size: $50.35 ($2.50 Rake)

fredrikp had Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (a pair of Tens) and LOST (-$25.00)
Hero had K/images/graemlins/heart.gif A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (two pair, Aces and Tens) and WON (+$22.85)

I had to post them because this guy is a moron.