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tedmondh
07-31-2007, 11:47 PM
Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

Hero (SB): $43.75
BB: $34.30
UTG: $30.00
MP: $49.65
CO: $24.15
BTN: $15.05

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (6 Players)
3 folds, BTN calls $0.25, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1.25</font>, BB folds, BTN calls $1.00

Flop: ($2.75) T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif A/images/graemlins/spade.gif 9/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $1.75</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $3.50</font>

Villian running about a 50/2.. Am I wrong to be raising this up PF? If so, I'll take note of that in the future.

However, seeing as how my Cbet got min raised, I'm stuck with a gutshot draw. What's my move?

PinkMartini
07-31-2007, 11:51 PM
I usually just call with this in the SB. I don't want to be oop as the initial raiser with potentially two other people in the hand vs me with this sort of hand.
As played, call minraise on flop, and pray for a J on the turn. If not, c/f turn.

papivilla
07-31-2007, 11:56 PM
I would have folded the flop,after he reraised. I would think villian got A

wildzer0
08-01-2007, 12:20 AM
Preflop is fine, I make my cbet more like $2.35 but whatever. Now fold the flop.

Trap_Star
08-01-2007, 01:12 AM
I make the flop $2.25...standard fold here though.

EMc
08-01-2007, 01:23 AM
Raisings here IMO is real standard, KQ&gt;&gt;unknown limp. As played, fold.

Trap_Star
08-01-2007, 01:25 AM
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Raisings here IMO is real standard, KQ&gt;&gt;unknown limp. As played, fold.

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really eh? a raise is std?

EMc
08-01-2007, 01:26 AM
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Raisings here IMO is real standard, KQ&gt;&gt;unknown limp. As played, fold.

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really eh? a raise is std?

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Against a player running like that, I cant see any way to play it. Calling here is giving up too much equity.

Rounder101
08-01-2007, 02:00 AM
I fold, almost 4-1 odds arenīt good against him that is kinda short. U are making ur straight about 8% of the time on the turn, and assuming you would stack him all the time (which u wont), it would be 11-1 odds to call, to 11-1 more less of making ur hand. So if u can stack him all the time u hit, u would be be practically breaking even.
So calling here IMO is not profitable.

ilya
08-01-2007, 04:17 AM
Fold, guy's not deep enough to call profitably OOP

donquay
08-01-2007, 04:37 AM
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Fold, guy's not deep enough to call profitably OOP

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he'd have to have quite a bit more (and I'd have to like my chances of stacking him) in order to chase here

Asheh
08-01-2007, 04:52 AM
Easy fold, two reasons:

8/1 on the gutshot, you stand to make 8/1 on your money if you manage to stack him. This is also provided you get a free turn.

RichAM
08-01-2007, 04:53 AM
Everything everyone has said sounds about right.

Your getting 4.5:1 odds on a call. Drawing to the nuts. He has about 40BB left in his stack and about 32BB in the pot. I think you can call getting those odds while drawing to the nuts to take down a 70BBish pot. You can c/f on turn if you don't hit or the odds are 6:1 or more on a call.

Reef
08-01-2007, 05:49 AM
pf is fine , fold flop w/o read/history

Fiksdal
08-01-2007, 06:53 AM
PFR is certainly standard for reasons listed. You're not getting odds to draw at your gutshot, and your implied odds might be limited as some playas do this on a pure move or something else stupid that wants information or whatever. Just fold.

JackAll
08-01-2007, 07:47 AM
Fold flop. He doesn't have anywhere near enough for this to offer odds for a gutshot.

tedmondh
08-01-2007, 12:33 PM
Thanks, now suppose I call the flop, and turn comes a blank. Since I'm first to act, what would my theoretical move be.. check I assume?

hunt1897
08-01-2007, 12:45 PM
Call pre-flop. Makes the hand easier to play. With those stats, villian is not folding to your raise pre-flop.


As played, Fold.

IMO.

Splossy
08-01-2007, 12:50 PM
You've repped high cards. An A has flopped yet he still raises you meaning he probably has something.

Pre flop looks fine. Just because he plays 50% of his hands doesn't mean he calls all PFR's and even if he does then you are still ahead of his very large range.

Rounder101
08-01-2007, 06:30 PM
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Thanks, now suppose I call the flop, and turn comes a blank. Since I'm first to act, what would my theoretical move be.. check I assume?

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Dont mess it up, no need to get tricky. Just c/f.

mitsu1775
08-01-2007, 06:34 PM
preflop looks good, as played i agree with what most have already said, fold the flop.