When did I make a mistake?

[castigar]

Right when he min raised the flop, I was expecting a set, but I couldn't fold given the odds. I think my first mistake was to bet the turn, it gave him the chance to push AI. But what if he had TP with a draw.. He would've taken a free card... I'd like to know what you guys think about this hand?

Vilain had 25% vip, 8PFR and 1.34AF.

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

Hero (SB): $59.95
BB: $25.00
UTG: $42.40
CO: $38.30
BTN: $43.30

Preflop: Hero is dealt K/images/graemlins/spade.gif K/images/graemlins/heart.gif (5 Players)
UTG calls $0.25, CO calls $0.25, BTN calls $0.25, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2.00</font>, 2 folds, CO calls $1.75, BTN folds

Flop: ($4.75) J/images/graemlins/heart.gif 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif 7/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $4.00</font>, <font color="red">CO raises to $8.00</font>, Hero calls $4.00

Turn: ($20.75) 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $15.00</font>, <font color="red">CO raises all-in to $28.30</font>, Hero calls $13.30

River: ($77.35) 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 Players - 1 All-In)

Pot Size: $77.35 ($3 Rake)

[castigar]

Here's what I came up with with pokerstove. What do you guys think about the range I gave him?

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 52.493% 52.49% 00.00% 12888 0.00 { KK }
Hand 1: 47.507% 47.51% 00.00% 11664 0.00 { AA, QQ-99, 77, AJs+, KJs+, QJs, J9s+, T8s, AJo, KJo, J9o+, T8o }

[prodonkey]

I give your possible range about a D-

He doesn't have AA or QQ.. most likely not JJ, he is not min raising you with TT on the flop, nor KJ most of the time.

77, 99, T8, J9, AJo are probably pretty close to his range after he min raises you on the flop. 25/8/1.3 means he likes to limp in pots, and hit hands before he gets very agressive with anything, which is is getting agressive now.

oh 79s is a possibility too

[castigar]

I often see slowplayed JJ+ PF, that's why I put them in there.

About TT+KJ not min raising on the flop. You may be right. I guess if it was a full size raise, it would be possible though. Right?

Here's the new equity calcs.

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 41.108% 40.57% 00.54% 137370 1812.00 { KK }
Hand 1: 58.892% 58.36% 00.54% 197586 1812.00 { 99, 77, AJs, QJs, J9s, T8s, 97s, AJo, QJo, J9o, T8o }

[castigar]

Given he min raised, I think it's still a good decision to call.

[TheBobn]

I always get nervous whenever I get min-raised on a board of 1 gapper's...i.e. T86, 975, because I find people rarely do it with a pair + gut shot, it's often a set, the nuts or a poorly played two pair thinking he/she has the nuts.
Often you see people minraising top pair with a weak kicker to slow the preflop raiser down, but they usually check behind the turn if that's the case because they don't love their hand. There are of course those who think that top pair is the nuts, regardless of kicker, so you have to make a judgment there.

Although I obviously(and it sounds like you don't either) know the villain that well, and we're going to say he's either minraising top pair finding out if it's good or some nut-type hand. I'd be happy calling the flop minraise and checkraising all in on any 7,9 or K and folding to almost any turn bet. These cards improve your hand against two pair hands, make the likelyhood of sets less likely and give you at least a few full house outs if he did indeed flop a full house. If he checks behind the turn and any card comes, even one of the ones listed above, I like firing a 2/3 pot bet on a blank river and expect to get called by Jx a lot.

To be honest, his aggression is fairly low for a vpip of 25, but it would help to know aggression by street. Although it's difficult to do, when you raise 8bb pf and you get a caller with a vpip &lt; 25, it's usually a pair hoping to setmine you because they think you have a huge hand. People with vpip &lt; 30 and PFR &lt; 10 generally have some clue about poker, albeit not a big one.

Although I don't like dumping it on the flop to a minraise, when I'm out of position here I dont mind getting it in on those turn cards listed above or attemping to play pot control and will dump it on the turn, although the PFR was 8bb, you have one pair against a guy with an aggression of 1.24 in a 300bb pot.

[prodonkey]

I just feel there isn't much this type of player is going to be min raising you on a board like that with. He probably isn't min raising your c-bet just for the heck of it like some people do. I feel you're behind here a lot. I don't bet the turn, I check and see what kind of bet he makes.

[Capone]

I agree prodonkey were almost always crushed here.