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BevillTheDevil
07-28-2007, 02:03 AM
Villian is 50/10/2 after 78 hands. NOt really any good reads on villian seems pretty fishy tho.

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
6 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)

Stack sizes:
UTG: $28.10
UTG+1: $48.50
Hero: $50.80
Button: $49.25
SB: $77.05
BB: $35.20

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with 9/images/graemlins/club.gif 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $2</font>, 2 folds, BB calls.

Flop: Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif ($4.25, 2 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $3</font>, BB calls.

Turn: 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif ($10.25, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.

River: 2/images/graemlins/club.gif ($10.25, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets $10</font>, Hero ???

sightless
07-28-2007, 02:05 AM
I'd fold

shoxbb6
07-28-2007, 02:07 AM
This a Q nearly always, board isn't drawy enough for him to bluff any missed draws

EMc
07-28-2007, 02:28 AM
Idk I think its pretty possible we are ahead here. Getting 2-1 here im not thrilled, obviously, but I think we will at least win 1 out of every 3 showdowns, if not more. Its pretty marginal.

tw0please
07-28-2007, 02:36 AM
How have you been playing? I would consider snapping this off but you're not getting fantastic odds.

RunDownHouse
07-28-2007, 03:02 AM
I've gotta agree that this is one of those spots where, if I've been c-betting the flop, checking behind the turn, then folding the river lots, I'd probably call. Villains at 50NL aren't as brain-dead as we'd often like, and anyone who thinks they haven't noticed you checking turns/folding rivers lots is kidding themselves.

So I think its close enough where you have to decide where your table dynamics are and go with that read.

BevillTheDevil
07-28-2007, 05:13 AM
probably is spewy but lately ive been callin in spots i normally dont and stuff like here on the river, Kinda trial and error thing w/ obv variance. My went to SD% is like 20 which I hear is low. Here i ended up callin and villian had K6o for air. Still a very marginal spot like stated and i think id like it if the river had like a missed flush draw or somethin. This could be spew in the long run not sure tho...

InsideEdge
07-28-2007, 05:29 AM
Fold.

There will be better spots to take their dosh.

Genz
07-28-2007, 06:11 AM
I think I call here often because the board is so low and I think there is a better chance than 2:1 that the high cards they typically call with, don't contain a Q. I think you see a random A or K, KJ, KT etc. very often here.

RunDownHouse
07-28-2007, 06:11 AM
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Fold.

There will be better spots to take their dosh.

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And then they get up and leave. You can't wait around for someone's money when they have to feed the dog, or cook dinner, or drive someone, or whatever.

Whether this spot is profitable or not has little to do with whether you can wait for it to come up again.

Antinome
07-28-2007, 11:38 AM
I call most of these, It isn't spew.

The bet sizing worries me, full sized pot bets are both less likely to be bluffs and require them to be bluffing more often. Bets like 6-8 are snapcalls. These I'm really thinking about my image, their image, and then usually calling.

InsideEdge
07-28-2007, 01:05 PM
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Fold.

There will be better spots to take their dosh.

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And then they get up and leave. You can't wait around for someone's money when they have to feed the dog, or cook dinner, or drive someone, or whatever.

Whether this spot is profitable or not has little to do with whether you can wait for it to come up again.

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What i mean is that this is clearly a marginal spot whereby there is very little in it either way. This spots arnt so crucial as to worry about when playing poor players.

Waingro
07-28-2007, 04:04 PM
Against this guy I think you can call. He seems to be a guy who likes to bet big for no apparent reason. He could bet $10 with hands like 73 etc. Bluff, value? Nobody knows.

barryc83
07-28-2007, 04:09 PM
If I've seen him bluff or get out of line I'll snap this off. If its the first time hes done it I'll muck.

tubasteve
07-28-2007, 04:12 PM
if you think he calls w/out a Q often on the flop, I would rather bet turn for like $7.50 and try to get a free showdown.

kaz2107
07-28-2007, 04:41 PM
assuming ive been pretty active and been cbetting my fair share i call.