I don't wanna play for stacks, pleeease.

[InsideEdge]

Villian has been playing super nitty at like 15/10 over 100 hands, ive not noticed him get out of line. I've been doing my standard 20/15 stuff this session.

I dont wanna play for 200bb's /images/graemlins/frown.gif


Seat 1: <font color="#000000">CO</font> ($52,00)
Seat 5: <font color="#000000">BTN</font> ($55,40)
Seat 6: <font color="#000000">SB</font> ($26,82)
Seat 8: <font color="#990000">Hero</font> ($97,90)
Seat 10: <font color="#000000">UTG</font> ($121,00)

<font color="#000000">SB</font> posts small blind of $0,25
<font color="#990000">Hero</font> posts big blind of $0,50

<font color="#990000">Hero</font> is dealt A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif,A/images/graemlins/spade.gif

<font color="#000000">UTG</font> raises to $1,75
<font color="#000000">CO</font> folds
<font color="#000000">BTN</font> folds
<font color="#000000">SB</font> folds
<font color="#990000">Hero</font> raises to $7,50
<font color="#000000">UTG</font> calls $5,75


Dealing flop 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif,9/images/graemlins/heart.gif,J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif
Pot is: $15,75

<font color="#990000">Hero</font> bets $10,00
<font color="#000000">UTG</font> raises to $28,00

Push, fold or call /images/graemlins/confused.gif

[Mike Kelley]

Fold and move down to a level you aren't afraid to stack off.

[tarheeljks]

call. re-evaluate turn

[Maneh]

call and crai any turn /images/graemlins/wink.gif

[vixticator]

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Fold and move down to a level you aren't afraid to stack off.

[/ QUOTE ]Or leave table when you are up a lot and sit back down with 100bb.

[InsideEdge]

lol, just because i dont wanna play for my 200bb stack, with one pair, doesnt mean im afraid of losing a buyin!

Problem is Tarheel is that i wasnt sure what a good or bad turn would be. Call then check folding a wide range of turns seems weak?

[Mike Kelley]

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lol, just because i dont wanna play for my 200bb stack, with one pair, doesnt mean im afraid of losing a buyin!

Problem is Tarheel is that i wasnt sure what a good or bad turn would be. Call then check folding a wide range of turns seems weak?

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Silly me for mis-interpreting "I don't wanna play for stacks, pleeease."

[Genz]

Well, you certainly don't want to play for stacks with a single pair when deep unless you know that villain has a wide range. So every advice to the effect of "Easy stack off! You haz AA! LOLZOR!!" is stoopit. I think a call is still good. There is obv. a lot going on with how the hand goes down. I.e. esp. timing. The problem is, that you are only beating QQ here, because villain would probably have reraised with KK preflop. So if he was bluffing, he probably won't fire a 2nd barrel, because most nits don't do that in reraised pots. If he makes a quick, strong bet, you can fold. Everything in between is judgement.

[1tripz1]

Call and see the turn or just shove, alot of hands (at this limit) will pay you off here.

[InsideEdge]

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Call and see the turn or just shove, alot of hands (at this limit) will pay you off here.

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from a 15/10 under the gun raiser, this deep?

[Mike Kelley]

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Call and see the turn or just shove, alot of hands (at this limit) will pay you off here.

[/ QUOTE ]

from a 15/10 under the gun raiser, this deep?

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Your flop bet looks like a standard CB. He could easily be trying to push you off AK, AQ with a small pp... IMO

Do you have Flop aggression factor in your Heads up display? I find that useful when I'm trying to guess if someone is bluffing

[tarheeljks]

even though we are deep i think a smooth call pf w/KK is very possible. besides the obvious K, things probably won't be any clear on the turn until we see whether he bets or checks behind, but we are too deep to anything else

[Genz]

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Your flop bet looks like a standard CB. He could easily be trying to push you off AK, AQ with a small pp... IMO


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And that's the best reason against a shove, DUCY?

I think the calling range of a nit this deep in a pot like this is very limited: set or KK. 9 sets, 6 KKs. Only if you add QQ to his calling range (which would be a little un-nitty) you can favor a push. He might be betting AK, AQs etc. though.

[InsideEdge]

FWIW i folded.

I didn't like the idea of calling then check folding. Wasnt sure if this was too weak and i was letting the deep stacks cloud my judgement on this one.

Looks like opinion is for the call and re evaluate the turn. Guess shows how playing OOP can suck.