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Rah22
07-26-2007, 07:50 PM
Hello,

i was wondering if anyone would 3 bet this flop or call turn?

villian is 41/31/2.3

we had some battles before this hand, noone got really hurt, few $ up or down. I might see him a bit donkish but not that much. Ive been running TAG more or less.


Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

MP ($30.42)
CO ($40.59)
Button ($33.02)
SB ($11.28)
BB ($28.65)
Hero ($29.72)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif.
Hero raises to $1</font>, 4 folds</font>, BB calls $0.75.

Flop: ($2.10) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero bets $1.5</font>, BB raises to $5, Hero calls $3.50.

Turn: ($12.10) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players)</font>
BB bets $10</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $12.10
Speedlimits
07-26-2007, 08:13 PM
shove.
Capone
07-26-2007, 08:16 PM
you confused me there for sec :s lol
Speedlimits
07-26-2007, 08:17 PM
I didn't see stats on this kid. he's bad. shove is fine
Capone
07-26-2007, 08:19 PM
yeah i think the shove is g00t here to.
Khaos4k
07-26-2007, 08:20 PM
Against this villain turn is an easy push. I'd even consider pushing flop.
Capone
07-26-2007, 08:21 PM
pushing the flop is to big of an overbet.
Khaos4k
07-26-2007, 08:26 PM
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pushing the flop is to big of an overbet.

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Ya, which is why I need a bit more of a read that villain likes to chase draws, or loves aces far too much. Calling flop and then value betting to the river seems like a better option.
Rah22
07-26-2007, 08:26 PM
hmm... maybe i should include some more history/reads.

So far ive always have a hand when i raised PF and went to a SD. I think he should be putting me at least on AK maybe AJ.
Also the stats sample is fairly low.


What about same situation vs unknown?
r1tony
07-26-2007, 08:27 PM
Shove.. with that board and opponent.
Gorgias
07-26-2007, 08:43 PM
Vs unknown...you're probably still good. We can be conservative and assume that unknown only calls your reraise with pocket pairs QQ or less (would have reraised KK or AA), 54s-JTs, AQ+, KQ. Then on this flop, he could make this move with a flush draw (to get cheaply to showdown), any set, any Q, or any A. You're way ahead of the draws, you're only behind to the sets, which is a small minority of his range...I think you can still safely shove.
Rah22
07-26-2007, 08:51 PM
AQ, A9 are easly in his range, even q9 i think. Only hands i was afraid and i think they were hihgly posible.
Capone
07-26-2007, 08:52 PM
lol
Rah22
07-26-2007, 08:55 PM
yes im new, hi, and this is what i think, not something im sure or very familiar of. Thats why im posting so someone with more expirience can answer. I thought that was all about?
Dan Bitel
07-26-2007, 09:09 PM
you're overthinking this hand. You seem to be giving him a thought process that he doesn't have. He is a 41/31...he's not thinking about what hands you have shown down, he's thinking about how pretty his A2 looks.

He will call youi with any ace, and sometimes worse.....shove turn