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jessyj07
07-24-2007, 03:17 AM
villain is 61/7/2.38 after 44 hands. Comments on turn minraise? Also do we vb this river? He has about the pot left and I'm not sure he can/will call with worse.

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UTG ($119.25)
MP ($48.90)
Hero ($54)
SB ($127.45)
BB ($29.30)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $1.50.

Flop: ($4.25) 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $3</font>, BB calls $3.

Turn: ($10.25) 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $2.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $5</font>, BB calls $2.50.

River: ($20.25) 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero..........

Final Pot: $20.25

KJatl
07-24-2007, 11:39 AM
Turn min-raise accomplishes very little IMO. Hero checks this river with good showdown value.

joelav128
07-24-2007, 11:46 AM
value bet is a must here imo. i'm betting about $10-12 and folding to a raise, although i don't think we get check raised very often in this spot.

MrGrand
07-24-2007, 11:47 AM
turn minraise is awfull
call&gt;raise to 10 at least&gt;fold
I think,however I am not 100% sure that calling&gt;raising it might be pretty equal EV wise

edit:
If u call VB river
If u raise I check behind

Capone
07-24-2007, 11:56 AM
I find it intresting how you played this hand. PF and flop is pretty std. But could you expand on your thought process in terms of the min-raise?

After he checks to you on the river Clear $12-15 valuebet.

MrGrand
07-24-2007, 12:16 PM
He had to missclick on turn T_T

danny8
07-24-2007, 12:24 PM
i dont like the minraise. The only reason i can see for a turn minraise is to get a free SD, or get value out of a really weak ace, but he doesnt have a weaker ace than you. Against this guy i dont think its a good idea, he obv has no idea about betsizing, so i dont think hes gonna bet something large that you cant call on the river. and i can still see him donking river small after your minraise with whatever.

i call turn and call a river bet, if he checks river i value bet. As played i make about a 1/2 pot bet

skiller3
07-24-2007, 12:37 PM
I don't see what the minraise did but whatever.

Please value bet river for $12 though.

jessyj07
07-24-2007, 04:16 PM
So nobody likes the minraise for the free showdown? That is all I was trying to accomplish.

monkover
07-24-2007, 04:18 PM
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So nobody likes the minraise for the free showdown? That is all I was trying to accomplish.

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donīt think itīs works too often...

jessyj07
07-24-2007, 04:19 PM
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So nobody likes the minraise for the free showdown? That is all I was trying to accomplish.

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donīt think itīs works too often...

[/ QUOTE ]it works, alot.

Capone
07-24-2007, 04:21 PM
nah i dislike it.

monkover
07-24-2007, 04:22 PM
i prefer a call. this way villain prob vbets worse hands on the river too.

DaycareInferno
07-24-2007, 04:27 PM
hrm. i don't understand why you need to raise for a free showdown when this guy is only betting like 1/4 the pot anyway.

jessyj07
07-24-2007, 04:30 PM
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hrm. i don't understand why you need to raise for a free showdown when this guy is only betting like 1/4 the pot anyway.

[/ QUOTE ]Because he could bet the pot on the river which is a push that I don't want to call and if he reraises the turn or leads the river I can fold easily.