NL50 JJ reraised pot, flop OESD

[Panic__NL]

Villian is 80/0/5 but I got only 5 hands, so no read.
What range of hands does he have here?


Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
4 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)

Stack sizes:
UTG: $40.30
Hero: $67.75
SB: $22.15
BB: $90.50

Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is Button with J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif J/images/graemlins/spade.gif
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $1</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $4.25</font>, 2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $8.5</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif ($17.75, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">UTG is all-in $32.8</font>, Hero ???

[Jzo19]

god knows what he has , i would imagine QQ+ , and maybe AK ...he could be a maniac but there's no way you could know that w/o reads ...

[Panic__NL]

AK,QQ+ gives me 56% equity, given the pot I have to call here then.

[ciro bonano]

I thought it was a clear fold, but after stoving some ranges I'm not so sure anymore. It's difficult to give villain an range here, but folding with 56% equity would be a gigantic (~$10) mistake.

[tarheeljks]

that equity looks too high considering that we are a big dog to QQ/KK. i think AsKs should be the only combo of AK in there.

edit: if he's an unknown i think a good range to put in here is AsKs, QQ+, you could also throw in the other JJ combo.

[Panic__NL]

The problem is not, does he have QQ+, the problem is does he also have any AK combination. How many of the AK combinations are in his range make this decision + or - EV.
What does he put me on after my 3bet, something big I guess, so why would he push QQ+? that makes it more likely AK is in his hand as well, right?

[ajmargarine]

Double minraise pf may be AA. Could be AT or 97 too. Factor in those times Hero is literally ahead here....

[jessyj07]

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Double minraise pf may be AA. Could be AT or 97 too. Factor in those times Hero is literally ahead here....

[/ QUOTE ]you underestimate the donks down here. This is QQ+ so much of the time it is not believable.

[tarheeljks]

i think it's bad to assume that any combo other than AsKs is in his range. it may not be a good idea to take all of the other combos out, but this is the most likely combo of AK that he does this with.


i think he just shoved b/c of awkward stacksizes. if you just call his cbet, he would only have &lt;~1/2 psb on the turn.

[ajmargarine]

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Double minraise pf may be AA. Could be AT or 97 too. Factor in those times Hero is literally ahead here....

[/ QUOTE ]you underestimate the donks down here. This is QQ+ so much of the time it is not believable.

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It was AT yesterday vs me. 78o a few days ago. If Hero is raising limpers alot and raising minraisers alot, range is wider for villain "taking a stand"...5 hands, so we don't know, but he may have just left my table and sat down here. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[prodonkey]

ya people take stands with stupid crap