50NL;KJ flops TPSK; he donks flop, calls raise, and pushes turn

[Lego05]

Villian is 51/12.2/1.83 postflop agg. over 90 hands.


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BB ($59.80)
UTG ($31.10)
MP ($44)
CO ($28)
Hero ($50)
SB ($44.85)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K/images/graemlins/club.gif, J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
UTG calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls $0.50, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $3</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG calls $2.50, CO folds.

Flop: ($7.25) 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif, J/images/graemlins/club.gif, 3/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $2</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $8.5</font>, UTG calls $6.50.

Turn: ($24.25) 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $19.6 (All-In)</font>, Hero ???

[wildzer0]

Man you post good hands Lego. I've immediately got a draw draw as a huge part of his range after the donk/call on the flop. This is also TP a lot. On the turn, sometimes he has a monster, sometimes he's semi-bluffing with a strong draw (5c4c for example) and sometimes he thinks his JT is good. I'd say a reasonable breakdown is something like 35% two pair or a set, 35% a draw with around 30% equity, 20% TP, 10% something like TT which means, if my range is reasonable, ou have about 55% equity (I'm doing this in my head, but that should be about right) making this a call. I dunno though. calling here doesn't seem right, maybe my range is bad.

[homeslice]

obviously a tough spot, but I'd probably fold...he's got a large range and there's a good chance your up against 2pair or better...

[spivey]

I'd probably call because of player's stats.

[prodonkey]

I'd prolly fold because of player's stats.

[spivey]

That's a very high post flop aggression factor for such a high VPIP.

[joelav128]

i call

[Heine]

turbo call.

These are the hands you want to felt against these types. These people are your friends. Unless you have a read on this fish, this is a good hand to go broke with. He pushes that turn with a lot of crap.

[sightless]

I call in spots like these, from my experience you should be ahead there often enough

[Lego05]

Ok my two cents. The flop donk is usually a draw or top pair or second pair with a mediocre kicker. I don't need to worry about top pair or second pair cause I beat it. And the turn didn't really complete any draws, but made some more of them and also he could have a draw + a pair now.

And I really do think if a set gets played this way most people would push the flop although most would also check in the first place with a set. Two pairs are very unlikely....What two pair could he have?

So after like 15 seconds or so I called.

[wildzer0]

I did do my math wrong, it's about 48% equity with the range I gave, forgot to carry the one or something /images/graemlins/smile.gif I dunno, I'm interested to hear more thoughts on this as I sometimes talk myself into making calls that are too thin.

[homeslice]

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What two pair could he have?



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His PF actions incidcate possible small PP or small SC.

I was thinking 65s was possible, cuz actions on the flop indiacte he could have been hanging around w/ 2nd pair, and the turn may have given him the second pair.

[Lego05]

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What two pair could he have?



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His PF actions incidcate possible small PP or small SC.

I was thinking 65s was possible, cuz actions on the flop indiacte he could have been hanging around w/ 2nd pair, and the turn may have given him the second pair.

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Yea that's true...it could be 65 especially maybe of clubs. I think that's the only two pair hand he'd be holding though.