JJ getting c/r

[Jay_Whufc]

New to table, no reads, standard fold? Anyone calling?


Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

SB: $2.60
BB: $16.85
UTG: $27.80
Hero (MP): $25.15
CO: $25.40
BTN: $17.25

Preflop: Hero is dealt J/images/graemlins/club.gif J/images/graemlins/heart.gif (6 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1.00</font>, CO calls $1.00, 2 folds, BB calls $0.75

Flop: ($3.10) 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif (3 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $2.75</font>, CO folds, <font color="red">BB raises all-in to $15.85</font>, [i]Hero ???

[castigar]

Call, you'll often see something like a pair and a str8 draw.

[ZingZhang]

Standard for me, your hand isn't under-repped at all, looks quite strong and I'd definitely fold this without reads. It's gotta be 9 10 at worst and likely a set or over pair. &lt;&lt;&lt; If villain knows that you are strong, they might play those that way knowing it's a difficult fold and many turn cards are action killers. They could be donking it up w A7 but if you called, make notes and you'll have a better idea for next time.

[toomuchforu]

call. pair + straight drawis way more likely here than an overpair. sure sets will be in there too, but so will hands like 99, TT. People love to put you on AK and you have pretty good equity against his range.

[wulfpacker21]

fold.. he can be lose playin 9T, 55, 99, 88, QQ KK and AA would prob. re raise PF but what do you beat that check raises you? not much

[55offsuit]

Seems like an easy fold. Can't imagine much we are ahead of except for straight draws. 52.4bb is not cheap enough for me to make this call. I fold.

[Kasane]

Size of the c/r sure looks like he wants a fold. I'd call because of all the straight + pair draws. If villain's doing this right, his move is fine and so is your call.

You will be behind or crushed sometimes, but not too often.

[fees]

i call here.. am i missing sometihng

[xd40]

i just dont see a 2pair/set/str8 c/r that much here

[derosnec]

fold. pot is too small given likely range.

[wulfpacker21]

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i call here.. am i missing sometihng

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your just looking at your hand and not what he can have

[Jouster777]

What do you think he has?

Board: 7c 8d 5h
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 52.796% 51.71% 01.08% 125940 2640.00 { TT-55, 87s, 75s+, 64s+ }
Hand 1: 47.204% 46.12% 01.08% 112320 2640.00 { JJ }

[KEW]

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i call here.. am i missing sometihng

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your just looking at your hand and not what he can have

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Just doing math in my head it looks like we need &lt;40% pot equity to make a call +EV...$13 to call for a $21 pot..I think we will see draws,pairs,pairs+draws and flat out bluffs enough to make a call +EV...

[robinmbuk]

To be honest, I really don't think it matters either way here readless. I think bewteen the number of times this is 2 pair, over set (we loose) and it's 99-TT / pair+straight draw combo ITLR this is more or less a flip against a random player.

If anything I'd say call because then we have reads for the future, but then alot of uNL players don't play regularly enough for reads to be worth it.

[Jay_Whufc]

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To be honest, I really don't think it matters either way here readless. I think bewteen the number of times this is 2 pair, over set (we loose) and it's 99-TT / pair+straight draw combo ITLR this is more or less a flip against a random player.

If anything I'd say call because then we have reads for the future, but then alot of uNL players don't play regularly enough for reads to be worth it.

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I agree that this is a marginal and could go either way. Thats prob why roughly half the responses say call and half say fold!!!

I folded, he said he had 77 but who knows? Thanks guys