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Nogatsira
07-23-2007, 12:01 PM
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button ($5.05)
SB ($11.20)
Hero ($10)
UTG ($11.45)
MP ($12.15)
CO ($6.05)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $0.2</font>, Button calls $0.20, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $0.7</font>, CO calls $0.50, Button calls $0.50.

Flop: ($2.15) K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $1.9</font>, CO calls $1.90, Button calls $1.90.

Turn: ($7.85) Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $7.4 (All-In)</font>, CO calls $3.45 (All-In), Button calls $2.45 (All-In).

River: ($17.20) 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 3 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $17.20


comments on all streets are appreciated

corsakh
07-23-2007, 12:02 PM
Bad turn card. Very bad turn card.

Fiksdal
07-23-2007, 12:05 PM
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Bad turn card. Very bad turn card.

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I am inclined to check/evaluate turn here actually.

LegendLength
07-23-2007, 12:05 PM
I play it the same and see lots of trash a showdown at NL10.

Nogatsira
07-23-2007, 12:07 PM
And why is that turn card so bad? So many people play KQ against a reraise preflop?

Perk76
07-23-2007, 12:11 PM
They only have half a pot sized bet left. Nothing wrong with getting them all in here. They will have draws and TPMK enough times for this to be profitable compared to the times they have a set/2pair.

corsakh
07-23-2007, 12:15 PM
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And why is that turn card so bad? So many people play KQ against a reraise preflop?

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Dude, your playing 10NL and your asking this? I can tell you though they are probably off suite. Suited ones are worth 4betting /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Nogatsira
07-23-2007, 12:17 PM
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And why is that turn card so bad? So many people play KQ against a reraise preflop?

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Dude, your playing 10NL and your asking this? I can tell you though they are probably off suite. Suited ones are worth 4betting /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

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Yeah, you are right about them playing KQ and one had indeed KQ but the play, it was still correct right?
I couldnt fold if any of them pushed anyhow

corsakh
07-23-2007, 12:21 PM
Well... you have a chance to suck out. There is also a chance both of them on a spade draw. Also a chance he has a weaker king. I mean your destined to go broke here, but if your deeper you should be able to get away.

Johnny2Gunnz
07-23-2007, 12:22 PM
I would be inclined to check at this point.

To most NL10 players KQo is equivalent to KK.

ben wb
07-23-2007, 03:18 PM
Against two shortstacks I don't see a problem with this, they will definitely call you with worse. With bigger stacks you might want to slow down.

DannyOcean_
07-23-2007, 03:21 PM
Yeah, flop bet is obviously correct, and on the turn they have 3 bucks a piece. Obv. we arent folding AK on this board for a 1/2pot all in.

Here's a thought. Since we want to get them in, should we check to induce bluffs? I realize bet bet bet is usually good, but is their pushing range bigger than their calling range? What say you uNL?

Ramana
07-23-2007, 03:28 PM
I hope this thread is a level. Hand looks good to me.


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should we check to induce bluffs? What say you uNL?

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I say lol

Nogatsira
07-23-2007, 05:55 PM
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I hope this thread is a level. Hand looks good to me.


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should we check to induce bluffs? What say you uNL?

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I say lol

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we dont really like arrogant people here

Ramana
07-23-2007, 06:56 PM
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we dont really like arrogant people here

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Ok sorry, point taken. I'm not like this usually.

IMO you played this hand perfect. Trying to induce a bluff on the turn makes no sense, because they are so short and the pot so big. They won't bluff, because their bets wont have any meaningful relation to the pot size. Also it would be waay to tricky for NL10, where TPTK is the nuts against shorties. Also, I don't see how a Q is a bad turn card for us. Putting someone exactly on KQ is either crazy or a level.

Nogatsira
07-23-2007, 08:09 PM
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we dont really like arrogant people here

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Ok sorry, point taken. I'm not like this usually.

IMO you played this hand perfect. Trying to induce a bluff on the turn makes no sense, because they are so short and the pot so big. They won't bluff, because their bets wont have any meaningful relation to the pot size. Also it would be waay to tricky for NL10, where TPTK is the nuts against shorties. Also, I don't see how a Q is a bad turn card for us. Putting someone exactly on KQ is either crazy or a level.

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Thats more like it
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