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prodonkey
07-23-2007, 08:14 AM
Villain is 26/19/2, I was playing pretty tight if he was even paying attention.

He had been raising a lot, we had played a hand a few minutes ago on another table where I bet him out of a pot he raised preflop with a turn bet. The flop was so/so for me, 2 overs and a gutshot, I figured I'd take one off with position and see what he did on the turn.. and while I didn't hit one of my outs, I picked up a flush draw.. who fires? who checks behind?

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

SB: $49.50
BB: $49.85
UTG: $16.60
MP: $50.00
Hero (CO): $95.75
BTN: $58.55

Preflop: Hero is dealt http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/cards/color/Qh.gif http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/cards/color/Kh.gif (6 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">MP raises to $1.75</font>, Hero calls $1.75, 3 folds

Flop: ($4.25) http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/cards/color/6c.gif http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/cards/color/Js.gif http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/cards/color/9h.gif (2 Players)
<font color="red">MP bets $3.00</font>, Hero calls $3.00

Turn: ($10.25) http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/cards/color/6h.gif (2 Players)
MP checks, Hero ???

Gullanian
07-23-2007, 08:21 AM
Just take the free card and see what happens.

paulnic
07-23-2007, 08:54 AM
i like betting here all u have is K high at the moment bet 2\3 pot. your fe is probably ok and even if your called u probs have 16 outs.

Lego05
07-23-2007, 09:07 AM
I think betting here is good....looks like a good place to semi-bluff to me.

If he checkraises you it depends on how big. And be sure to remember and note that he did that.

TheSalche
07-23-2007, 09:11 AM
Well, he probably has air here, but when he doesn't, he's going to check/raise pwn you. I don't see much value in betting here, I'd opt for a check behind and see what the river brings. I'd raise a river ten, call a queen/king and raise a river heart.

mattnxtc
07-23-2007, 09:11 AM
I like betting as well. Drive his Ax out of the hand.

holdme
07-23-2007, 09:12 AM
depends if you think he thinks youre floating
or if he's a by the book 8 tabler.

geoncic
07-23-2007, 09:14 AM
I like betting here. Don't let him get a free card if he has Ax, and if he is check raising here then you can put him on trips, two pair, or a big pocket pair.

I say bet/call and if you hit your straight or flush without the board pairing again, value bet.

geoncic
07-23-2007, 09:16 AM
ohhh, I didn't see that the board paired on the turn.

Still bet out, then evaluate if he raises. Call if you don't think he had a set on the flop. Otherwise fold if he raises, of course.

I might put him on AJ most of the time in this situation if he's going for a check/raise.

I would bet that only your straight and flush outs are good at this point.

relativity_x
07-23-2007, 09:21 AM
Pot the turn 100% of the time. You have a lot of equity in the pot on the turn and he's shown weakness, I'd estimate 36%. If he pushes, call.

relativity_x
07-23-2007, 09:22 AM
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I might put him on AJ most of the time in this situation if he's going for a check/raise.

I would bet that only your straight and flush outs are good at this point.


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If you put him on aj, how are q/ks not outs?

I'd put him on air.

prodonkey
07-23-2007, 09:39 AM
I actually bet 6.75.. and got raised.

<font color="red">Hero bets $6.75</font>, <font color="red">MP raises to $15.00</font>, Hero ???

Easy call right

mattnxtc
07-23-2007, 09:40 AM
There is generally quite a bit of fold equity that comes with betting this turn. AJ bets this turn a lot.

relativity_x
07-23-2007, 09:41 AM
yes

Daniel LeClaire
07-23-2007, 11:48 AM
I would probably reraise this preflop.

On the turn I don't see a lot of value in betting. He either folds or c/r you. I'd rather bet here if I had nothing than with a great drawing hand.

fees
07-23-2007, 11:59 AM
3bet preflop, bet 7.5 here