AQ oop min raised on flop, turn he shoves. [Archive]

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07-23-2007, 06:21 AM

No stats on villain, besides that he`s scandinavian. Line check please. flop bet in hand 1 was to small.

hand 1

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saw flop|saw showdown

Hero ($53.70)
BB ($41)
UTG ($48)
MP ($100.15)
Button ($52.30)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A/images/graemlins/club.gif, Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
UTG calls $0.50, MP calls $0.50, 1 fold, Hero raises to $3, 1 fold, UTG calls $2.50, MP folds.

Flop: ($7) 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 3/images/graemlins/club.gif, Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $4.5, UTG raises to $9, Hero calls $4.50.

Turn: ($25) T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $36 (All-In), Hero folds.

Final Pot: $-11

hand 2

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saw flop|saw showdown

UTG ($65.05)
MP ($45.10)
Button ($26.35)
Hero ($80.65)
BB ($49.70)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J/images/graemlins/club.gif, Q/images/graemlins/club.gif.
1 fold, MP raises to $1, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.75, BB calls $0.50.

Flop: ($3) A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif, J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, MP bets $0.5, Hero raises to $4.5, BB folds, MP raises to $12.5, Hero calls $8.

Turn: ($28) 2/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $13, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $28

cooker3

07-23-2007, 06:27 AM

Yeah, your bet is too small and may look weak. Once the turn hits then it is an easy fold.
Hand 2, nasty spot to be in, I probably fold this pf, I just hate playing in the sb but I imagine I am quite nittish in that regard.
He probably has AK but meh you might as well fold on the flop, only 4 cards help you and lot of cards are just horrible, combine that with being oop means fold to 3 bet looks best to me.

BahhGawd

07-23-2007, 07:23 AM

Wow. Hand 1 seems pretty rough to me with no reads. Obviously bet more on the flop but you know that. I think I'm willing to get it all-in vs an unknown on the flop.

The turn makes it an obvious fold as you're now behind all the hands in his range that you were beating.

Hand 2, I think it's a good spot for a 3bet preflop. I don't like playing out of position to 2 players vs a mini-raise. If you just call, the BB is coming along most of the time and you have to play the entire hand in horrible position.

JQ is a solid hand when a villain's range is well-defined, but this miniraise basically tells you nothing. I fold to the flop 3bet as there are hardly any turn cards which help your hand here.

monkover

07-23-2007, 07:28 AM

hand 2: calling on the flop and then not continuing when a blank comes off is a big leak. fold the flop if you don´t have the balls to call on the turn anyways. so either push flop or fold.

hand 1:I´m calling the turn here. it´s quite an overbet but I have never seen villain´s bluff minraising fd... but maybe that´s wrong.

corsakh

07-23-2007, 07:43 AM

Hand1 easy 3bet. 4.5 into 7 is totally normal. You don't need to cbet pot every time to take it down, its just spewage.

Hand2 I decide to felt it or not to felt on the flop. Calling and folding turn is terrible. I probably fold to the 3bet. Bet/3bet is always a monster.

BahhGawd

07-24-2007, 12:03 AM

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Hand1 easy 3bet. 4.5 into 7 is totally normal. You don't need to cbet pot every time to take it down, its just spewage.

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I disagree. Sure, you don't need to bet pot on whiffed flops just "to take it down", but here we have a strong hand on a flush draw board. I feel a lot more comfortable betting closer to pot as a flush draw will make up a substantial portion of villain's calling range.

iraise50

07-24-2007, 12:25 AM

Hand two I think is decided on the flop. If you call his re-raise, you can't fold to the deuce on the turn.

he min-raised pre-flop, then tried to get money into the pot with a minimum bet and re-raised your decent raise. I, personally, and folding and paying more attention to him here.

Waingro

07-24-2007, 01:33 AM

I think you have the best hand a lot here. This guy seems to exude plenty of random aggression. Hand 1 is ok, but as others have pointed out in hand 2, calling the flop 3bet and then folding the turn is bad. Either don´t fold ever in the hand or fold the flop.