Idea for the main event...

[krille]

- It is changed to a winner take all, however...
- A player can at any time take their money and go. (obviously, forfeiting their chance at winning the title)

This would just be so fun to watch.

[Cornell Fiji]

So... you want to make it a cash game.

[JOEL_]

Interesting. But I imagine that a better scenerio would be that they can indeed leave at any time but they would have to leave behind a certain amount of equity. To make the first place a true prize to go after.

[ibluffoldladies]

no thanks. Tournaments are more fun.

[TehVader]

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no thanks. Donkaments are more fun.

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FYP

[krille]

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So... you want to make it a cash game.

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Exactly, only the final table will be the highest stakes ever seen, with the world-title on the line.


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Interesting. But I imagine that a better scenerio would be that they can indeed leave at any time but they would have to leave behind a certain amount of equity. To make the first place a true prize to go after.

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That's basically the idea. The winner will get the title and all the millions of $ of endorsements, so I don't think any other incentive should be added. Basically, the players who truly want the title and not the money, will have the highest chance of winning.

[RedManPlus]

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To make the first place a true prize to go after.

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The only way to accomplish this...
Is to have a FT full of Poker Pros...
To whom the money is very secondary to winning the tournament.

Also...
For the FT one could reset everyone's chips the same...
So the FT would be a new stand-alone tournament...
And much more competitive.

You people have to think outside the box...
The status quo is outdated and will never survive...
There are gonna be MAJOR changes.

Someone is gonna create a players union...
Just take it away from Vegas Casino Interests...
And remake the poker world.

[Cornell Fiji]

Actually, with people picking up their cash from the table the stakes wouldn't be much higher than HSP on the gameshow network.

The WSOP is a TOURNAMENT. You are looking for a cash game with escalating blinds. Your idea makes no sense. If people want a high stakes cash game they would not buy in for $10,000 and try to run up a big stake, rather they would just play in a bigger game.

[JOEL_]

Tournaments skills+cash game skills. To me this should be studied a little.
The idea is not a bad one,but I do believe if you decide to leave the arena, there should be some form of penalty.
You have to have a reason to go after the first prize apart from getting the title.An incentive to play if you will.
So if your the big chip leader and your contemplating leaving but part of that consideration is you give up say 25% of equity(as an example)then it's not so easy a decision.

[SossMan]

The first tourney I ever played was at an indian casino near santa barbara. The structure was a limit tourney until the final table. At the start of the final table, everyone was given $200 in $5 chips. You could leave any time you were the shortest stack at the table.

it was pretty lame.

[dlk9s]

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To make the first place a true prize to go after.

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The only way to accomplish this...
Is to have a FT full of Poker Pros...
To whom the money is very secondary to winning the tournament.

Also...
For the FT one could reset everyone's chips the same...
So the FT would be a new stand-alone tournament...
And much more competitive.

You people have to think outside the box...
The status quo is outdated and will never survive...
There are gonna be MAJOR changes.

Someone is gonna create a players union...
Just take it away from Vegas Casino Interests...
And remake the poker world.

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Are you trying to write a poem?

[Emperor]

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Nice try, but no reason to fix, what isn't broke.

(except for the structure/payouts/wait times/chip scams/tip scams/etc)

[tokebowlz]

Your idea is about as good as crystal Pepsi.

[JP OSU]

I knew when I read the title that this post would be horrible...

[MicroBob]

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I knew when I read the title that this post would be horrible...

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yup. me too.

LOL at somehow getting down to the final 2 players with $4-million each and just watching them toss out their $50k/$100k blinds.
Neither one of these guys would stand up? They would just keep playing for the title.
I mean, if people wanted to sit with $4-mil and play with insane blinds then they could. But people just don't do that (with the extremely rare Andy Beal type exception).

[JOEL_]

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I knew when I read the title that this post would be horrible...

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yup. me too.

LOL at somehow getting down to the final 2 players with $4-million each and just watching them toss out their $50k/$100k blinds.
Neither one of these guys would stand up? They would just keep playing for the title.
I mean, if people wanted to sit with $4-mil and play with insane blinds then they could. But people just don't do that (with the extremely rare Andy Beal type exception).

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Yang and the other guy did just that. Only they could not stand up. In this scenerio they can stand up,but they let go of the title and extra monies to be won.This would be like that game show kinda,who wants to be a millionaire?

[MicroBob]

yang and the other guy did not do that at all.
That would be called a "cash-game".
This is a tournament.

This would be no different than a cash-game except there's a title at the end of it.

Do you not see the point that if people were willing to let $4-million ride on a single hand they could already do that?

[fees]

I think this is genius.. am I the only one? Turn the ME into a cash game with a slower blind structure... u serious? It would turn the biggest joke into poker into something awsome

[JOEL_]

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Do you not see the point that if people were willing to let $4-million ride on a single hand they could already do that?

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Don't know about you,but I could not do that.
But I would be able to if I got down to playing heads up under this structure or get up and let the other guy have it.
Would be interesting to see all those players who say it is all about the bracelet and not the money.

[MicroBob]

I can't let $4-million ride either.
Nor can most people. Duh. That's why most people don't already do gamble that high.

Who starts with $10k, runs it up to $1-million or whatever, and then sits there and just lets it ride?
Not many people.

Thus you would simply have a situation of a lot of people walking with their cash when they get to $50k or $100k or whatever.
It would just be like a big cash-game and mostly pretty dumb.

And you wouldn't have $4-million vs. $4-million at the end. Because most people would have already walked with their chips at $100k or whatever.

You would have two guys left with perhaps $300k or more each which is close-ish to what you see already on HSP.

I just don't think this would end up being very interesting at all.

[jogsxyz]

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Nice try, but no reason to fix, what isn't broke.


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It's definitely broke. Problem is if you put 100
people on a committee to fix it, no two would agree
on the proper fix.

[Dranoel]

Did IQ's drop sharply while I was away?

What is wrong with some people? Crying because there is not a FT of just the poker professionals; or in the middle of the tournament you can pick up your chips and cash out.

I thought lead-based paint chips was done away with in the 70's. Has it made its return?

[ericicecream]

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So... you want to make it a cash game.

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Exactly, only the final table will be the highest stakes ever seen, with the world-title on the line.

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I'd pick up and leave when it got to heads up. How would that be for ESPN ratings?

[Mitch Evans]

Of course this is silly, but for the sake of discussion, I like the winner take all. No one can buy out, it's just winner take all.

Watching a final table playing for $60M and $0, with all of the players in no position finacially (some on $200 sats) to take it lightly, playing for 7days+ to get to the final table with $60M at stake would make for some really colorful animation. Certainly better than watching a bunch of broke nooobs turned millionaires trying to fold into another million.

Even better is to not tell anyone. Right before they begin the final table the TD says, "Sorry guys we changed the payout structure... it is now a $60M winner take all final table. There will be no breaks allowed at this final table. After you bust out, there's a steel octagon cage in the corner where players 2-9 can wait for each other. Sorry, but the form you signed said we have the right to change payouts at anytime. We were serious about that. Good luck. See you in the cage."

[JOEL_]

The idea, as put forward by the OP I believe also that it would not work.
You would get to the position as MicroBob has pointed out.
Still,if you take out say 25%,or even 50% of your chips worth if you decide to cash out which is added to the first prize, players would have to think twice.

[MaverickUSC]

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The first tourney I ever played was at an indian casino near santa barbara. The structure was a limit tourney until the final table. At the start of the final table, everyone was given $200 in $5 chips. You could leave any time you were the shortest stack at the table.

it was pretty lame.

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I played that same one back in the day. Chumash I think?

Devo