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TheJokerIsWild
07-20-2007, 12:34 PM
If the investigation concludes that he was using online sportsbooks to make any wagers this can't be good for our cause. I can't wait to find out which ref it is. I'll guess Joey Crawford.

Link (http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/7042010?MSNHPHCP&GT1=10239)

Orlando Salazar
07-20-2007, 12:43 PM
Our cause is already lost until the sports leagues quit trying to stifle sportsbettng. That is the real reason why all this happened (+indian casinos).

govman6767
07-20-2007, 01:16 PM
It's actually a good reason to regulate it.

I can't believe I did not think of something like this first. If he stayed away from the Mob and was careful about it he prob could have gotten away with it.

It would explain some of the horrible calls in the NFL the last 2 years also.

smartalecc5
07-20-2007, 02:01 PM
Giants 49ers?????????????????????????????????????????????

tmfs
07-20-2007, 02:56 PM
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It would explain some of the horrible calls in the NFL the last 2 years also.

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NBA referee being investigated for game-fixing

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oldbookguy
07-20-2007, 03:26 PM
Excellent point, NBA.

Shouldn't this be in sports betting though?

Legislurker
07-20-2007, 03:33 PM
Its not Crawford, its Tim Donaghy(maybe an Irish mob thing. This issue belongs here since Legislation has by defualt become the gambling action and PR forum(hint, hint). This is big time mob gambling. He has resigned, so its pretty clear it is him. Apparently most of the booked action was back end bet swapping between mob outfits. Vegas claims total ignorance. The feds MAY say internet gambling if one mob outfit had its own site set up to handle placing bets/settlement, but i don't think any name brand books were used.

JavaNut
07-20-2007, 03:41 PM
The way to counter this problem is regulation, the more that can be proven about connections between a suspect bet and who made it the better, including establishing that it was the nephew of a referee who made many weird calls in a game who made the the 300-1 bet.

The only answer to fraud and money laundering arguments is international regulation of betting sites. I think that this is the point you need to bring across to your politicians. Unless they make it regulated, they lose control.

TheJokerIsWild
07-20-2007, 04:11 PM
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Its not Crawford, its Tim Donaghy(maybe an Irish mob thing. This issue belongs here since Legislation has by defualt become the gambling action and PR forum(hint, hint). This is big time mob gambling. He has resigned, so its pretty clear it is him. Apparently most of the booked action was back end bet swapping between mob outfits. Vegas claims total ignorance. The feds MAY say internet gambling if one mob outfit had its own site set up to handle placing bets/settlement, but i don't think any name brand books were used.

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Do you have a link that confirms it is Donaghy?

Coy_Roy
07-20-2007, 04:17 PM
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Its not Crawford, its Tim Donaghy(maybe an Irish mob thing. This issue belongs here since Legislation has by defualt become the gambling action and PR forum(hint, hint). This is big time mob gambling. He has resigned, so its pretty clear it is him. Apparently most of the booked action was back end bet swapping between mob outfits. Vegas claims total ignorance. The feds MAY say internet gambling if one mob outfit had its own site set up to handle placing bets/settlement, but i don't think any name brand books were used.

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Do you have a link that confirms it is Donaghy?

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NY post reports it's Donaghy.

Here: http://www.nypost.com/

http://www.nypost.com/seven/07202007/news/columnists/nba_in_a_fix_columnists_murray_weiss.htm

Uglyowl
07-20-2007, 04:52 PM
If sportsbetting was regulated, like Vegas, more of this stuff would get caught earlier due to being able to monitor irregular betting patterns. Alot of the pre-internet, shady dealings were caught due to unusual betting activity.

yahboohoo
07-20-2007, 09:30 PM
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Its not Crawford, its Tim Donaghy(maybe an Irish mob thing. This issue belongs here since Legislation has by defualt become the gambling action and PR forum(hint, hint). This is big time mob gambling. He has resigned, so its pretty clear it is him. Apparently most of the booked action was back end bet swapping between mob outfits. Vegas claims total ignorance. The feds MAY say internet gambling if one mob outfit had its own site set up to handle placing bets/settlement, but i don't think any name brand books were used.

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Do you have a link that confirms it is Donaghy?

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How about the link in the original post...???

Legislurker
07-20-2007, 10:48 PM
For those of you who hate Crawford, here is an interesting tidbit, he and Donaghy have a link. This if from Marc Stein's column at ESPN.

Donaghy, a baby-faced 40, is one of four NBA referees to have graduated from Cardinal O'Hara high school in Philadelphia. The others are Joey Crawford, Mike Callahan and Ed Malloy.

Just foor for conspiracy theorists.

niss
07-20-2007, 11:00 PM
I always suspected that Cardinal O'Hara was a capo.

xxThe_Lebowskixx
07-21-2007, 04:01 AM
they make it sound like all he did was bet on a game.

Coy_Roy
07-21-2007, 04:07 AM
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they make it sound like all he did was bet on a game.

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while also being able to control the outcome of said game(s).