great call JJ Liu

[BigBiceps]

I was watching WPT last night, not sure if it was a repeat or not.

JJ Liu Q /images/graemlins/spade.gifJ /images/graemlins/spade.gif.
Ted Forrest K /images/graemlins/club.gif5 /images/graemlins/club.gif.

Flop A /images/graemlins/club.gifKx.
Turn T /images/graemlins/club.gif
river x /images/graemlins/club.gif

Forrest pushes 2x the pot on the river, and she calls.

This is the worst play I have ever seen.
I am sort of surpised Forrest pushed 2x the pot as anyone normal would never call here. I guess he correctly analyzed how stupid she was.

[iron81]

Why in the world would anyone ever give anyone credit for a backdoor flush when otherwise you have the nuts? Forrest could have easily been pushing a worse hand for value.

[BigBiceps]

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Why in the world would anyone ever give anyone credit for a backdoor flush when otherwise you have the nuts? Forrest could have easily been pushing a worse hand for value.

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Because of the way the action went.

No, he was not pushing any worse for value. This guy knows he is vastly superior to her, and read her for a strong hand, and would not be pushing even a set here. This is the same guy who didn't value bet AA v Negraneu on some board that was like A666x.

[footnbaseball]

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This is the worst play I have ever seen.


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Really?

[iron81]

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Because of the way the action went.

No.

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Then what was the action?

[BigBiceps]

flop was check-check.
turn was bet-call (she slowplayed her straight).

[JooWish622]

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I was watching WPT last night, not sure if it was a repeat or not.

JJ Liu Q /images/graemlins/spade.gifJ /images/graemlins/spade.gif.
Ted Forrest K /images/graemlins/club.gif5 /images/graemlins/club.gif.

Flop A /images/graemlins/club.gifKx.
Turn T /images/graemlins/club.gif
river x /images/graemlins/club.gif

Forrest pushes 2x the pot on the river, and she calls.

This is the worst play I have ever seen.
I am sort of surpised Forrest pushed 2x the pot as anyone normal would never call here. I guess he correctly analyzed how stupid she was.

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wrong forum, inadaquate post, doesnt give full history, poster likes men.

[BigBiceps]

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This is the worst play I have ever seen.


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Really?

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The worst I have seen on TV heads-up.

Basically, that awful call was for the whole tournament.

[Humble Pie]

Very low content.

[doublejoker]

How about when she folded the flush draw with overs against middle pair?

[BigBiceps]

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How about when she folded the flush draw with overs against middle pair?

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This was pretty bad too, only because I know that she had a 4/9 chance to win the whole thing right there against a player better than her.

There is some argument for folding though, as she is in deep trouble against a better flush draw.

[Cornell Fiji]

BigBiceps,

You are wrong. Very wrong.

-Steve

[doublejoker]

Is this thread in the right section?

[Silent A]

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I was watching WPT last night, not sure if it was a repeat or not.

JJ Liu Q /images/graemlins/spade.gifJ /images/graemlins/spade.gif.
Ted Forrest K /images/graemlins/club.gif5 /images/graemlins/club.gif.

Flop A /images/graemlins/club.gifKx.
Turn T /images/graemlins/club.gif
river x /images/graemlins/club.gif

Forrest pushes 2x the pot on the river, and she calls.

This is the worst play I have ever seen.
I am sort of surpised Forrest pushed 2x the pot as anyone normal would never call here. I guess he correctly analyzed how stupid she was.

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Yeah, that's a pretty bad call.

When did WPT add NL Omaha? What were the side cards?

[Dids]

I assumed this thread was about olivert

[Tyler Durden]

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I was watching WPT last night, not sure if it was a repeat or not.

JJ Liu Q /images/graemlins/spade.gifJ /images/graemlins/spade.gif.
Ted Forrest K /images/graemlins/club.gif5 /images/graemlins/club.gif.

Flop A /images/graemlins/club.gifKx.
Turn T /images/graemlins/club.gif
river x /images/graemlins/club.gif

Forrest pushes 2x the pot on the river, and she calls.

This is the worst play I have ever seen.
I am sort of surpised Forrest pushed 2x the pot as anyone normal would never call here. I guess he correctly analyzed how stupid she was.

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wrong forum, inadaquate post, doesnt give full history, poster likes men.

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lol this is a phenomenal post. well done.

[Dan.]

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I assumed this thread was about olivert

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That's what I was expecting as well.

[Cornell Fiji]

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I assumed this thread was about olivert

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That's what I was expecting as well.

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Its the only reason I opened it too

[BigBiceps]

Who is olivert?

[MaverickUSC]

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This is the worst post I have ever seen.


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[Dids]

I'll tell you who he isn't.

He's sure not JJ Liu's agent.

Any more.

[doublejoker]

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I'll tell you who he isn't.

He's sure not JJ Liu's agent.

Any more.

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The egotistical asian guy with the weird glasses?

[jogsxyz]

Wrong forum.

Inaccurate reporting of the hand.

The flop had two clubs.

Forrest made the flush on the turn
The river club was the fourth board club.

Forrest made a tiny river bet, about 1/5 the size of the pot.

[s33w33d]

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Wrong forum.

Inaccurate reporting of the hand.

The flop had two clubs.

Forrest made the flush on the turn
The river club was the fourth board club.

Forrest made a tiny river bet, about 1/5 the size of the pot.

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So what the [censored] is the OP talking about?

And no TV play is worse than Tilly's "I THINK YOU HAVE KK" hand.

[Dids]

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I'll tell you who he isn't.

He's sure not JJ Liu's agent.

Any more.

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The egotistical asian guy with the weird glasses?

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You are correct sir.

[daryn]

good to know if you ever make it to a final table (unlikely) you'll be easy to push around

[BigBiceps]

She even asked him if he had a frush so it was not a big surprise.

How often is he betting 2x the pot there when he doesn't have a flush. (I estimate <10% of the time).

[TalkingDonkey]

I estimate you suck at poker 100% of the time

[Kurn, son of Mogh]

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BigBiceps,

You are wrong. Very wrong.

-Steve

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So wrong he couldn't see right using the Hubble telescope.

[RichGangi]

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She even asked him if he had a frush so it was not a big surprise.

How often is he betting 2x the pot there when he doesn't have a flush. (I estimate <10% of the time).

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You are dumb. DUCY?

[PITTM]

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This is the worst play I have ever seen.


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its probably the 103,298th worst play ive ever seen. do you even play poker?

[SuperUberBob]

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BigBiceps,

You are wrong. Very wrong.

-Steve

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QFT

[ender]

This is the worst post I have ever seen.

[yimyammer]

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Wrong forum.

Inaccurate reporting of the hand.

The flop had two clubs.

Forrest made the flush on the turn
The river club was the fourth board club.

Forrest made a tiny river bet, about 1/5 the size of the pot.

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I think you're thinking of the wrong hand.

Here's how the hand was reported at cardplayer:

Sat Mar 17 01:54:00 PDT 2007
Ted Forrest Doubles Up

254. Liu raises to $480,000 and Forrest makes the call. The flop comes A /images/graemlins/club.gifK /images/graemlins/spade.gif7 /images/graemlins/diamond.gif and both players check.

The turn is the 10 /images/graemlins/club.gif and Forrest bets $300,000. Lui calls and the river is the 2 /images/graemlins/club.gif. Forrest moves all in for $3,260,000 and Liu makes the call. Forrest turns over the nut flush with the K /images/graemlins/club.gif5 /images/graemlins/club.gif. Liu shows Q-J for a straight and mucks her cards.

Ted Forrest doubles up and takes a commanding chip lead with $8,200,000 chips to Liu's $800,000.

http://www.cardplayer.com/tournaments/live_updates/7109

[Cornell Fiji]

Lol, this was a heads up hand?!!?!?!

This makes your post so much worse

Liu's call is +ev in almost all situations.

[doublejoker]

PLEASE MOVE THIS WHOLE THREAD........