** To All Forum Posters: A Note on Tone **

[entertainme]

There's a trend in posts in the last 24 hours with titles such as:

"Do you hate Jerry Yang already?"
"Khan Acted like a retard and I am glad he is gone"
"Phil Gordon is a Horses Ass"

In my opinion, all of these only serve to make the forum look bad.

Don't get me wrong. I'm all for free speech. Yet, any of these ideas can be expressed just as well without the grade school name calling.

2p2 is the highest volume poker forum to my knowledge, which is why the site gets mentioned for example on the WSOP PPV broadcast.

Please give it two seconds thought before proceeding directly to the gutter. I really think we're better than this. I'm confident that the tons of intelligent posters that participate here can demonstrate that.

Thank you,

entertainme

[wisehandpoker]

thank you

[Austiger]

I agree completely.

[Dranoel]

Yup. Makes us look like a bunch of idiots.

I too am all for free speech, but let's at least be civil about it.

YMMV

[suzzer99]

So are you saying my next thread:

"I want to dutch oven Phil Gordon with Mickey's Big Mouth hangover farts until his nostrils bleed"

would not be well-received?

[yimyammer]

[ QUOTE ]
There's a trend in posts in the last 24 hours with titles such as:

"Do you hate Jerry Yang already?"
"Khan Acted like a retard and I am glad he is gone"
"Phil Gordon is a Horses Ass"

In my opinion, all of these only serve to make the forum look bad.

Don't get me wrong. I'm all for free speech. Yet, any of these ideas can be expressed just as well without the grade school name calling.

2p2 is the highest volume poker forum to my knowledge, which is why the site gets mentioned for example on the WSOP PPV broadcast.

Please give it two seconds thought before proceeding directly to the gutter. I really think we're better than this. I'm confident that the tons of intelligent posters that participate here can demonstrate that.

Thank you,

entertainme

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Well said, I agree.

Make your point with constructively critical and logical posts. This is much more effective than sounding like a 2 year old

[TMTTR]

[ QUOTE ]
So are you saying my next thread:

"I want to dutch oven Phil Gordon with Mickey's Big Mouth hangover farts until his nostrils bleed"

would not be well-received?

[/ QUOTE ]

Well, at least don't put it in the title line...

[Emperor]

In the future, to avoid looking like a 2yr old when insulting those who indeed deserve to be insulted, use the Shakespearean Insult Generator.

http://www.pangloss.com/seidel/Shaker/

[jafeather]

100% totally agree.

[SuperUberBob]

You are a fishmonger.

[FishNChips]

entertainme....

Thou puking tardy-gaited jolt-head!

[southgapoker]

But Phil Gordon is a horse's ass.

[zasterguava]

From the sounds of things PPV didnt handle themselves too well either

[Emperor]

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There's a trend in posts in the last 2 Months with titles such as:


"Brad Booth Asks Me To Set The Record Straight"
"Brandi Missing 200-400 Blind Level Due To Illness"
"Brandi (insert numerous meowchowcrap)"
95% of OOT titles
90% of NVG titles

Numerous other posts by Mason, Sklansky, El Diablo, where they are trolling to incite anymosity among the masses to generate page views


In my opinion, all of these only serve to make the forum look bad.

Don't get me wrong. I'm all for free speech. Yet, any of these ideas can be expressed just as well without the grade school name calling.

2p2 is the highest volume poker forum to my knowledge, due mostly to these ridiculous lockerroom antics which is why the site gets mentioned for example on the WSOP PPV broadcast.

Please make sure your posts follow the above examples, don't waste 2 seconds of thought before proceeding directly to the gutter. Do you really? think we're better than this? I'm confident that the tons of intelligent posters will stop participating since we have already demonstrated that.

Thank you,

Emperor

[/ QUOTE ]

FYP

Seriously. S&M and mods have went out of there way to drag this forum into the gutter. While it creates great amounts of traffic. The good posts were pre-upgrade (2002). (Ok exaggeration, but the kind of crap that is here now, wasn't here then. The quality of posts has gone down exponentially as the site gets more popular, ESPECIALLY among owners and mods.)

IOW, I am agreeing with OP, but "intelligent posters" wanting to keep the forum out of the gutter, are few and far between. Even among owners and mods it seems.

[benza13]

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So are you saying my next thread:

"I want to dutch oven Phil Gordon with Mickey's Big Mouth hangover farts until his nostrils bleed"

would not be well-received?

[/ QUOTE ]

Thy head stands so tickle on thy shoulders, that a milkmaid, if she be in love, may sigh it off.

[Johnny Hughes]

You need some controversy and disagreement. It can be done in a lighter, humorous way. If you are looking for big time positive, here is Gary Wise's article on J. Yang.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/poker/columns/story?columnist=wise_gary&id=2940285

[Butcho22]

Can you please get Dids to post something like this in NVG?

Only he needs to be much harsher, kthx.

[marty_palin]

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Can you please get Dids to post something like this in NVG?

Only he needs to be much harsher, kthx.

[/ QUOTE ]

Doubt it, Dids is a hypocrite who thinks he is funny. Thats why NVG is a cesspool

[Zetack]

[ QUOTE ]
In the future, to avoid looking like a 2yr old when insulting those who indeed deserve to be insulted, use the Shakespearean Insult Generator.

http://www.pangloss.com/seidel/Shaker/

[/ QUOTE ]

How did this one not end up in a Brandi thread:

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Thou odiferous ill-breeding strumpet!
<font color="white"> . </font>


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[Zetack]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
In the future, to avoid looking like a 2yr old when insulting those who indeed deserve to be insulted, use the Shakespearean Insult Generator.

http://www.pangloss.com/seidel/Shaker/

[/ QUOTE ]

How did this one not end up in a Brandi thread:

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Thou odiferous ill-breeding strumpet!
<font color="white"> . </font>


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Or this one:

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Thou mangled tickle-brained strumpet!

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Which is to say, that I like that link...

[seemorenuts]

It was disgusting at fullcontactpoker.com's forum, at around page 103 on the FT thread, several guys started posting racist Asian jokes when they could not handle the reality of an Asian vs Asian HU match, so by that measure the 2+2 community can stand proud, right?

[entertainme]

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IOW, I am agreeing with OP, but "intelligent posters" wanting to keep the forum out of the gutter, are few and far between. Even among owners and mods it seems.

[/ QUOTE ]

I do understand your cynicism. As a moderator, I can only concern myself with the Tournaments forum. I do think there are different standards that are intentionally applied across different forums with those "Off Topic" being more liberal.

I did allow the Brandi threads here that pertained specifically to the WSOP, which I know some disagreed with. However, I tried to use my best judgment to moderate them to remain suitable for this forum.

I see Tournaments to be more comparable to posting in a 2p2 strat forum, though there will be some divergence as opinions on play and players in tournaments is bound to be in the mix.

My only request in that regard is that opinions be stated with some thought and without name calling.

[Emperor]

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It was disgusting at fullcontactpoker.com's forum, at around page 103 on the FT thread, several guys started posting racist Asian jokes when they could not handle the reality of an Asian vs Asian HU match, so by that measure the 2+2 community can stand proud, right?

[/ QUOTE ]

Not really, it was about that time that 2+2 decided to pile on the Christian bashing...

[ibluffoldladies]

I agree. It's much more fun to bash people with style and maturity.

[Rushmore]

[ QUOTE ]
There's a trend in posts in the last 24 hours with titles such as:

"Do you hate Jerry Yang already?"
"Khan Acted like a retard and I am glad he is gone"
"Phil Gordon is a Horses Ass"

In my opinion, all of these only serve to make the forum look bad.

Don't get me wrong. I'm all for free speech. Yet, any of these ideas can be expressed just as well without the grade school name calling.

2p2 is the highest volume poker forum to my knowledge, which is why the site gets mentioned for example on the WSOP PPV broadcast.

Please give it two seconds thought before proceeding directly to the gutter. I really think we're better than this. I'm confident that the tons of intelligent posters that participate here can demonstrate that.

Thank you,

entertainme

[/ QUOTE ]

Good lord. Well said.