STOP TALKING ABOUT 2P2

[tuuufts]

SERIOUSLY wtf

[Chilltown]

why? we're like the only ones watching

[MyTurn2Raise]

but none of us are paying to watch

[thac]

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but none of us are paying to watch

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[twoblacknines]

This guy Reged: 05/27/07 but everyone hush hush about 2+2 no new people allowed in our secret club of exclusive poker secrets. Tuuufts has been here almost 2 months so he is def. old school.

[tuuufts]

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This guy Reged: 05/27/07 but everyone hush hush about 2+2 no new people allowed in our secret club of exclusive poker secrets. Tuuufts has been here almost 2 months so he is def. old school.

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LOL @ you thinking this is my first account

[twoblacknines]

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This guy Reged: 05/27/07 but everyone hush hush about 2+2 no new people allowed in our secret club of exclusive poker secrets. Tuuufts has been here almost 2 months so he is def. old school.

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LOL @ you thinking this is my first account

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lol @ you for wanting to keep 2+2 a secret from anyone who cares enough to be watching this.

[thac]

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This guy Reged: 05/27/07 but everyone hush hush about 2+2 no new people allowed in our secret club of exclusive poker secrets. Tuuufts has been here almost 2 months so he is def. old school.

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LOL @ you thinking this is my first account

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LOL @ you for being a tool

[jafeather]

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LOL @ you starting this thread

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[W brad]

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but none of us are paying to watch

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Considering that we are just watching a handful of random poker players (not the best in the world), it would hardly be worth paying for.

[thac]

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but none of us are paying to watch

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Considering that we are just watching a handful of random poker players (not the best in the world), it would hardly be worth paying for.

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With the most sub-par commentary ever

[tuuufts]

Ok I'll concede that its mostly 2p2ers watching this. Given that, I still think its kind of sad Phil seems to need some sort of validation from an online poker forum and he even brought up the fact he was voted most pathetic poker player.

[mlagoo]

phil is def pretty sad, but the whole "keep 2p2 a secret!" thing died a while ago

[jgunnip]

lol @ us all being geniuses

[Joe Tall]

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phil is def pretty sad, but the whole "keep 2p2 a secret!" thing died a while ago

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Somewhere around 2003...

[PokerGenius]

when raymer won, everyone was crying how 2p2 will be uncovered. oh no

[Isura]

LOL, 2p2 is like a blip in the overall poker community

[MyTurn2Raise]

seriously, 2p2 didn't place any in the top5

[*TT*]

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LOL, 2p2 is like a blip in the overall poker community

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if you consider more unique visitors over the past 6 months than any other poker destination in the world a blip, then yes I agree.

OK, I lied. 2+2 is really huge. Like MEGA huge. There is nothing in the poker world that comes remotely close to the number of visitors this site gets, 2+2 is not a secret anymore - EVERYONE reads it.

[MyTurn2Raise]

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LOL, 2p2 is like a blip in the overall poker community

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if you consider more unique visitors over the past 6 months than any other poker destination in the world a blip, then yes I agree.

OK, I lied. 2+2 is really huge. Like MEGA huge. There is nothing in the poker world that comes remotely close to the number of visitors this site gets, 2+2 is not a secret anymore - EVERYONE reads it.

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watching this final table, they are not very good at APPLYING what they read

[Dunkman]

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LOL, 2p2 is like a blip in the overall poker community

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if you consider more unique visitors over the past 6 months than any other poker destination in the world a blip, then yes I agree.

OK, I lied. 2+2 is really huge. Like MEGA huge. There is nothing in the poker world that comes remotely close to the number of visitors this site gets, 2+2 is not a secret anymore - EVERYONE reads it.

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That's just Sklansky starting Brandi threads.

[Humble Pie]

More Phil Gordon's a Douche threads needed.

[soah]

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Ok I'll concede that its mostly 2p2ers watching this. Given that, I still think its kind of sad Phil seems to need some sort of validation from an online poker forum and he even brought up the fact he was voted most pathetic poker player.

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please find a way to get this on youtube... it sounds awesome

[fatshaft]

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Ok I'll concede that its mostly 2p2ers watching this. Given that, I still think its kind of sad Phil seems to need some sort of validation from an online poker forum and he even brought up the fact he was voted most pathetic poker player.

[/ QUOTE ]I don't think he was. He said how pathetic most of the stuff you read on forums are, and laughed off the vote he won. I doubt he cares. You however seem to care that he doesn't?

[LGs0pHT]

Phil Gordon complained about 2p2 electing him as most pathetic poker player.

Three words:
chicken
high
heads up

[fatshaft]

I don't think he was complaining at all, I can't remember the context it was in now, but he said most forum posters were pathetic.

[LGs0pHT]

I am 99% sure that he was voted first place for most pathetic poker player, the co-host was voted #4, and he complained that everybody in this forums think he is a genius. I would really love to see more Phil Gordon $500 HU videos.

[nuclear500]

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LOL, 2p2 is like a blip in the overall poker community

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if you consider more unique visitors over the past 6 months than any other poker destination in the world a blip, then yes I agree.

OK, I lied. 2+2 is really huge. Like MEGA huge. There is nothing in the poker world that comes remotely close to the number of visitors this site gets, 2+2 is not a secret anymore - EVERYONE reads it.

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Blame google.

I'm dead serious.

[bxb]

Mods, please lock this thread up as it mentions 2p2. We don't want anyone to find out about it.

[nath]

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Mods, please lock 2p2

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[W brad]

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Mods, please lock 2p2

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Mods, please change the name of twoplustwo.com so no new people can find us.

[TMTTR]

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Mods, please lock 2p2

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Mods, please change the name of twoplustwo.com so no new people can find us.

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This has already been done, newb.

[Halo7]

"The first rule of two plus two is......"

[AngusThermopyle]

Welcome to the forum that shall not be named full stop com

[nath]

"...black hookers are +LifeEV"?

[Ace-Ex]

2p2 is the same theory of all of those Gambling books and classes that casinos want you to take so you can have an "edge." It helps degenerates like us learn how to lose more money, more effectively.

I bet 2p2 books are read in bookstores/libraries (or even purchased) at a rate that's 10x higher than the number of readers of this forum.

[Diana Ross Fan]

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2p2 is the same theory of all of those Gambling books and classes that casinos want you to take so you can have an "edge." It helps degenerates like us learn how to lose more money, more effectively.

I bet 2p2 books are read in bookstores/libraries (or even purchased) at a rate that's 10x higher than the number of readers of this forum.

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Whew! I dread the day I have to play a table against readers of NVG.

[JooWish622]

stupidity is your own edge that helps you lose money

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2p2 is the same theory of all of those Gambling books and classes that casinos want you to take so you can have an "edge." It helps degenerates like us learn how to lose more money, more effectively.

I bet 2p2 books are read in bookstores/libraries (or even purchased) at a rate that's 10x higher than the number of readers of this forum.

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[DarthIgnurnt]

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LOL, 2p2 is like a blip in the overall poker community

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QFt. Jesus ... 90,000 registered members on 2p2 (including gimmick accounts, inactive accounts, wolffund's multiple accounts, and zOMGLOL at OP's multiple accounts too).

Most users ever online at once = 4,000.

Compared to Pokerstars claim of 9,000,000 members, and the millions that watch ESPN coverage over time, the % of poker players that know about 2p2 is an insignificant rounding error.

An obscure mention on an online broadcast isn't going to change that. Don't worry OP, your games won't get any tougher.

[jbrent33]

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but none of us are paying to watch

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Considering that we are just watching a handful of random poker players (not the best in the world), it would hardly be worth paying for.

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With the most sub-premium commentary ever

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FYP

[Oki-Oki]

Who cares let them talk about 2+2, just cause you read this site doesnt suddenly make u a great poker player. Infact i would go so far as sayong 90%+ of 2+2ers suck or are not very good.

[Isura]

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LOL, 2p2 is like a blip in the overall poker community

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QFt. Jesus ... 90,000 registered members on 2p2 (including gimmick accounts, inactive accounts, wolffund's multiple accounts, and zOMGLOL at OP's multiple accounts too).

Most users ever online at once = 4,000.

Compared to Pokerstars claim of 9,000,000 members, and the millions that watch ESPN coverage over time, the % of poker players that know about 2p2 is an insignificant rounding error.

An obscure mention on an online broadcast isn't going to change that. Don't worry OP, your games won't get any tougher.

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Ya, you said what I wanted to but better.

[Dranoel]

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Who cares let them talk about 2+2, just cause you read this site doesnt suddenly make u a great poker player. Infact i would go so far as sayong 90%+ of 2+2ers suck or are not very good.

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Oki... you & I are in the 10% range right? /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Tito Jackson]

What did Gordon actually say?

[Joe O]

People who want to learn how to play better poker will find 2+2. Fortunately for us, the vast majority of players will never be willing to put in the effort to read either a book or a forum to improve their game.

[benza13]

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What did Gordon actually say?

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Read the thread maybe.

And anyone watching that broadcast has already heard of 2p2, even a lot of fish have heard of 2p2. Anyone that is good or wants to get better is likely using this site to improve, but the vast majority of people who read this forum show barely any improvement anyhow.

[JackCase]

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Who cares let them talk about 2+2, just cause you read this site doesnt suddenly make u a great poker player. Infact i would go so far as sayong 90%+ of 2+2ers suck or are not very good.

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There was a study a while back that showed that about 90% of people who bought self-help books never read the book all the way through.

I would guess that the same applies to people who buy poker books and to people who join forums like this. They just don't make the effort, and they just don't get the value of the resources available here.

A tremendous amount of traffic here is in the non-strategy forums, including about 47,398 posts in the last 24 hours about how clueless Phil Gordon is about poker. Most of those posts were from people who are clueless about poker.

[GotQuads]

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Who cares let them talk about 2+2, just cause you read this site doesnt suddenly make u a great poker player. Infact i would go so far as sayong 90%+ of 2+2ers suck or are not very good.

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So you think 2+2 readers, a miniscule fraction of all poker players, are worse than the players listening to Phil Gordons advice on TV? That is a very bold statement

[Ace-Ex]

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Who cares let them talk about 2+2, just cause you read this site doesnt suddenly make u a great poker player. Infact i would go so far as sayong 90%+ of 2+2ers suck or are not very good.

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There was a study a while back that showed that about 90% of people who bought self-help books never read the book all the way through.

I would guess that the same applies to people who buy poker books and to people who join forums like this. They just don't make the effort, and they just don't get the value of the resources available here.

A tremendous amount of traffic here is in the non-strategy forums, including about 47,398 posts in the last 24 hours about how clueless Phil Gordon is about poker. Most of those posts were from people who are clueless about poker.

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One time I bought a book about how to finish things, but

[benza13]

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Who cares let them talk about 2+2, just cause you read this site doesnt suddenly make u a great poker player. Infact i would go so far as sayong 90%+ of 2+2ers suck or are not very good.

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So you think 2+2 readers, a miniscule fraction of all poker players, are worse than the players listening to Phil Gordons advice on TV? That is a very bold statement

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No, he said that 90% of 2p2 posters suck or are not very good. Non 2p2 reading players are likely to be as bad or worse, although there are a few great players that never come to 2p2.

Only about 8% of players win online without rakeback/bonuses (at least a few years ago this was true wrt Stars). Probably 20% of 2p2 falls into this category if I had to make a random guess. There have always been plenty of people on this site that are breakeven players making their profits from rakeback and bonuses, I wouldn't exactly call that a "good" player.

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he said that 90% of 2p2 posters suck or are not very good.

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That bastard better never show his face in OOT!

[suzzer99]

Hey OP, you wanna where you can learn to make even more money than on 2p2?

Shhhhhhhh! (http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/som/)

[JackCase]

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he said that 90% of 2p2 posters suck or are not very good.

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That bastard better never show his face in OOT!

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90% of OOT posters don't know who Phil Gordon is, because they don't play poker.

[tuq]

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90% of OOT posters don't know who Phil Gordon is, because they don't play poker.

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I'm sure the 90% number is way, way off base but mine was a joke post anyway. As an example, I play but have never made a single strat post to date, and many OT regulars like Alobar play for a living but gave up posting/reading strat a long time ago. Finding this site and then OOT isn't easy unless you are into poker, or at least were when you registered.

[JackCase]

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90% of OOT posters don't know who Phil Gordon is, because they don't play poker.

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I'm sure the 90% number is way, way off base but mine was a joke post anyway.

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I was joking too. I really don't think the number is any more than 50%. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[*TT*]

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LOL, 2p2 is like a blip in the overall poker community

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QFt. Jesus ... 90,000 registered members on 2p2 (including gimmick accounts, inactive accounts, wolffund's multiple accounts, and zOMGLOL at OP's multiple accounts too).

Most users ever online at once = 4,000.

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Hi there! You probably didnt know when you made your post I have access to the 2+2 analytics, I am privy to all the visitor data. 2+2 gets:

174 million page views per month
An estimated 12 non-registered page views for every registered page view (still trying to track this better, this figure may not be accurate)
1.803 million non-duplicated unique visitors over the past 6 months.

Your assumptions are way off. The management at Poker Stars knows 2+2 is the worlds largest captive audience of poker players, its kind of sad sometimes that 2+2 regulars haven't figured this out yet.

[Diana Ross Fan]

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The management at Poker Stars knows 2+2 is the worlds largest captive audience of poker players

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Several of them have escaped and are running to rgp. Should I release the dogs?

[DJSHAD0W]

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but none of us are paying to watch

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lol.... so true

[DarthIgnurnt]

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Hi there! You probably didnt know when you made your post I have access to the 2+2 analytics, I am privy to all the visitor data. 2+2 gets:

174 million page views per month
An estimated 12 non-registered page views for every registered page view (still trying to track this better, this figure may not be accurate)
1.803 million non-duplicated unique visitors over the past 6 months.

Your assumptions are way off. The management at Poker Stars knows 2+2 is the worlds largest captive audience of poker players, its kind of sad sometimes that 2+2 regulars haven't figured this out yet.

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Hi! I have no reason not to believe your stats. My assumptions are actually just stats that are quoted from your site. (bottom of the page below)

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/ubbthreads.php

And despite the impressive numbers you quote above, I think you will admit that only a small percentage of this world's poker players use 2p2 on a regular basis. Which was really my point.

My statement was not meant to disparage 2p2. Aside from porn, it's where I spend most of my time online. Rather, I tried to illustrate the fact that many in this thread tend to overestimate 2p2's place in the big picture (a blip on the radar).

[SGspecial]

Hell we even got Barry G to say "LOL donkaments" on TV! Blip on the radar screen my [censored]

[W brad]

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Hell we even got Barry G to say "LOL donkaments" on TV! Blip on the radar screen my [censored]

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LOL Documents
<font color="white"> .......... </font> - Mr. Kotter

[secretprankster]

If someone could find sthief calling out Strasser for this a few years ago, that would be a lol read.