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a breath of air
07-18-2007, 01:33 AM
Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

SB: $49.50
BB: $74.65
UTG: $74.45
MP: $50.00
Hero (CO): $192.35
BTN: $96.90

Reads: <font color="blue">BB is playing very badly, 76/6/2(50); MP looks like a decent TAG, 19/15/2(309). This is almost always a fold pre-flop, but BB is playing so badly that I want to play as many hands as possible against him or her.</font>

Preflop: Hero is dealt 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif (6 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">MP raises to $1.75</font>, Hero calls $1.75, 2 folds, BB calls $1.25

Flop: ($5.50) 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif A/images/graemlins/spade.gif 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif (3 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">MP bets $3.25</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $15.25</font>, BB calls $15.25, <font color="red">MP raises all-in to $48.25</font>, Hero ???

Reup Gang
07-18-2007, 01:36 AM
callobv anything else is a cooler

ajmargarine
07-18-2007, 01:50 AM
Call, you got an out if behind. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

siccjay
07-18-2007, 01:52 AM
Is this preflop really ever ok?

corsakh
07-18-2007, 01:53 AM
If you want to play more pots with BB, you should isolate him, not call raises from MP. As played call.

ajmargarine
07-18-2007, 01:57 AM
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Is this preflop really ever ok?

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Hero thought so. He got the perfect flop and people are going all in and he doesn't know if he wants to go all in or not, so it makes you wonder about PF. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

I would say auto-fold PF unless MP was as deep as Hero.

a breath of air
07-18-2007, 02:21 PM
I have seen BB get all-in w/ J high, shouldn't I be trying to play as many pots as possible against him or her?

Mingdu
07-18-2007, 02:24 PM
obv. call, turn card 4 spades then vomit when he shows 76 spades

a breath of air
07-18-2007, 02:27 PM
A hand to illustrate the way the villain is playing.

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

SB: $99.75
Hero (BB): $50.00
UTG: $50.00
MP: $66.95
CO: $241.45
BTN: $49.25

Preflop: Hero is dealt Qhttp://legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif 9http://legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif (6 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">MP raises to $1.75</font>, CO calls $1.75, 2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $7.25</font>, MP calls $5.50, CO calls $5.50

Flop: ($22) 2http://legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif Ahttp://legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif (3 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $17.00</font>, MP folds, CO calls $17.00

Turn: ($56) 3http://legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets all-in for $25.75</font>, CO calls $25.75

River: ($107.50) 9http://legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif (2 Players - 1 All-In)

Pot Size: $107.50 ($3 Rake)

CO had Jhttp://legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif Thttp://legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif (Ace Jack high) and LOST (-$50.00)
Hero had Qhttp://legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif 9http://legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif (a flush, Ace high) and WON (+$54.50)

gimmetheloot
07-18-2007, 02:59 PM
still not with 32s...
also, OP hand is super standard call hes prob trying to take u out and keep the fishies all to himself with a good ace. if he overflushed you, sooooorrry.

a breath of air
07-18-2007, 03:02 PM
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still not with 32s...
also, OP hand is super standard call hes prob trying to take u out and keep the fishies all to himself with a good ace. if he overflushed you, sooooorrry.

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Well if villain is playing that badly why not try to play hands even as weak as 32s against him or her?

gimmetheloot
07-18-2007, 03:04 PM
cuz uh...its just too weak and sometimes he actually has a pair too?

DerrtySlime
07-18-2007, 03:05 PM
preflop with 32s is NEVER FINE. so he is weak and we are better , ok. what makes us better? playing solid postflop and getting in money with greatsituatoiuns and the bottom line is that if you didnt flop a flush there is no way your capable of winning apot against a loose calling station. so i guess you cancount onflopping fluishes but your not applying your edge at all.

a breath of air
07-18-2007, 03:07 PM
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preflop with 32s is NEVER FINE. so he is weak and we are better , ok. what makes us better? playing solid postflop and getting in money with greatsituatoiuns and the bottom line is that if you didnt flop a flush there is no way your capable of winning apot against a loose calling station. so i guess you cancount onflopping fluishes but your not applying your edge at all.

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What hands should we be raising with in late position to try to isolate the weak player?

orange
07-18-2007, 03:18 PM
easy call if you call pf.

HojoMofo
07-18-2007, 03:33 PM
lol, are you playing 76/6 also?

a breath of air
07-18-2007, 04:21 PM
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lol, are you playing 76/6 also?

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18/16

Capone
07-18-2007, 04:22 PM
yeah flop is a call.

but pre-flop is hidious i dont play 32s ever to a tag raise. Wait for a better PF spot.

a breath of air
07-18-2007, 04:26 PM
To make this more helpful I will present a more focused question. What adjustments should one make when playing against an opponent who is playing so badly that they are certainly about to go broke?

Capone
07-18-2007, 04:40 PM
You can isolate him that is totally correct. But with that hand, it is -Ev. Wait for a better spot your just spewing away $.

Big Poppa Smurf
07-18-2007, 05:12 PM
The problem with calling here preflop (well besides the obvious) is that you don't even know if BB is coming along. So 24% of the time here, you're just playing hu vs. a tag with three high.

ssdex
07-18-2007, 05:20 PM
im 3 betting this a lot with position postflop

as played, im felting this, mp probably has A and a redraw or maybe a set, if its ks qs, you have an out /images/graemlins/smile.gif

Big Poppa Smurf
07-18-2007, 05:22 PM
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To make this more helpful I will present a more focused question. What adjustments should one make when playing against an opponent who is playing so badly that they are certainly about to go broke?

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Try to isolate them a lot, which involves raising after they limp to try and get hu vs them, and maybe make a little bit looser calls with hands like suited connectors and AXs when they are in pots. I also limp a lot of hands like 9To, etc., when I have the button and there are limpers besides the super bad player.

infinite_loop
07-18-2007, 11:31 PM
Huh? This is how you play a hand with the BB by calling the solid TAG's raise with 32s? I don't like it at all. You can do this if you plan on trying to outplay the MP but I hate flat-calling because it tells the TAG his c-bet is usually going to work and you can't really afford to raise with this hand pre. And even if you decide to raise, BB is going to call enough to make this a big pot on the flop and your hand is rarely going to have a good option.