View Full Version : Tough River decision w/ Trips
Charlie_VB
07-17-2007, 10:15 AM
Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))
SB: $99.20
BB: $79.50
UTG: $75.35
MP: $83.25
CO: $25.15
Hero (BTN): $66.90
Preflop: Hero is dealt Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif K/images/graemlins/spade.gif (6 Players)
UTG calls $0.50, 2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2.25</font>, 2 folds, UTG calls $1.75
Flop: ($5.25) Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $0.50</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $4.50</font>, UTG calls $4.00
Turn: ($14.25) A/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 Players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $11.75</font>, UTG calls $11.75
River: ($37.75) 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $37.75</font>, Hero?????????
Villain: 84/0/0.4
My sessions stats: 32/26/3
Anyone folding here?
OneBigRed
07-17-2007, 10:22 AM
Cant really see how i could lay this down. Villains aggression factor is deceptive because of the amount of hands he plays. He could be "slowplaying" a worse Q.
I guess i call and kick a cat when he shows me a FH.
geoncic
07-17-2007, 10:24 AM
woah.. those are some crazy stats for Villain.
insta-call without those stats.
think and call with them. How many hands do you have on Villain?
mattnxtc
07-17-2007, 10:25 AM
IM calling and hoping the 4 or 7 didnt fill him up
Charlie_VB
07-17-2007, 10:27 AM
ive got about 60 hands on him; he doesnt seem as crazy as stats sugges. not a great player but seems to have some idea of how to play.
Pokerdemic
07-17-2007, 10:44 AM
I think I call and then lose to someone who didn't raise AQo UTG.
HojoMofo
07-17-2007, 10:49 AM
call and punish him by reloading and using large preflop raises if he happens to stack you.
skiller3
07-17-2007, 11:18 AM
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IM calling and hoping the 4 or 7 didnt fill him up
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ssdex
07-17-2007, 11:25 AM
im checking turn for pot control, as played I think you can call, although I am really worried about AQ and 77 here, i'm not sure what else he plays like this, the only hand your beating is QJ and a bluff (busted heart draw)
monkeymaps
07-17-2007, 11:32 AM
getting 2/1 to call are you winning enough to break even here tough? I never fold in the heat of the moment. but with these stats and given the size of the bet I think this is a fold IMO
mattnxtc
07-17-2007, 11:36 AM
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im checking turn for pot control, as played I think you can call, although I am really worried about AQ and 77 here, i'm not sure what else he plays like this, the only hand your beating is QJ and a bluff (busted heart draw)
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Please see that villian is playing 84% of the hands..he could have any queen as he doesnt appear to care to much what his cards are.
sightless
07-17-2007, 11:48 AM
I think I fold here most of the time vs such guy
we arent really good often enough here ):
Unknown Soldier
07-17-2007, 11:51 AM
more on flop, dont fold
Sweir
07-17-2007, 12:08 PM
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more on flop, dont fold
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Arp220
07-17-2007, 12:27 PM
Callage
That Fish
07-17-2007, 03:18 PM
First of all, this is never < than a set potting the river here yes?
Beating:
Qx (no boat)
=8 x 4 = 32 combos
Tied with QK = 2 combos
Losing to:
AA = 2 AQ = 3 Q7 = 3 Q4 = 3 77 = 2 44 = 2
= 15 combos
Assuming equal weight to all hands you're ahead 2:1 and you should push because anything he leads with here he calls.
Personally I think anyone who is 84/0/.4 (over more than 100 hands) only leads the river with a boat and this is a fold.
DaycareInferno
07-17-2007, 03:25 PM
i wouldn't even consider folding for a moment. of course people that slowplay are going to have a very low af, because they see more streets without ending hands. if you slowplay until the river, you look a lot more passive than an agressive player who bets on the flop and who's opponent folds looks agressive. just because a guy slowplays to the river do doesn't mean that they're only going to bet with the nuts once the river finally gets there.
shoxbb6
07-17-2007, 04:43 PM
You still have $$ behind, get it all in. This is a random Qx or Ax nearly all the time
kitchma
07-17-2007, 05:06 PM
amazing how divide the advice on this hand is. I say call. Anyone who plays 84% of their hands could easily have any Q here.
jerryf1914
07-17-2007, 05:10 PM
it seems to me when someone check calls check calls then pots it they have the near nuts everytime
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