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misterwigs
07-17-2007, 08:42 AM
Poker Stars
No Limit Hold'em Cash Game
$0.05/$0.10 Blinds
6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

SB: $5.90
BB: $6.65
UTG: $6.15
MP: $9.65
CO: $4.20
Hero (BTN): $12.50

Reads: <font color="blue">BB is 50/2/1.2/50</font>

Preflop: Hero is dealt Ahttp://legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif T/images/graemlins/spade.gif (6 Players)
2 folds, CO calls $0.10, <font color="red">Hero raises to $0.50</font>, SB folds, BB calls $0.40, CO folds

Flop: ($1.15) 5http://legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif Thttp://legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $0.80</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $2.00</font>, Hero calls $1.20

Turn: ($5.15) Khttp://legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $0.40</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2.95</font>, BB calls $2.55
Uncalled bet of $0.00 returned to Hero

River: ($11.05) 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets all-in for $1.20</font>, Hero ...

Your thoughts?

geoncic
07-17-2007, 10:06 AM
Is $1.20 worth it to see what he beat you with? :P

Looks like he could have been holding anything preflop and hit. He's begging for a call with the river all-in.

That is weird action on the hand.

kazana
07-17-2007, 10:59 AM
Either put him all in on the flop or fold to his raise. That call is putting you in a weird position vs a short stack.

If you're behind you've got virtually no implied odds with a hand that will not be able to improve significantly. So, make up your mind on whether you believe you're ahead and will get called often enough to offset for the times you're behind.
And there are far too many "bad" cards that can fall on the turn to just flat call his flop raise.

HojoMofo
07-17-2007, 11:02 AM
uhhhh at this point I wouldnt fold for 1.20.

skiller3
07-17-2007, 11:16 AM
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uhhhh at this point I wouldnt fold for 1.20.

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QFT

Also I don't think your turn raise was very good, considering he checkraised you on the flop--you don't have much FE and you aren't getting value out of worse hands (he doesn't rate to have a worse hand that often). I definitely just call the turn bet as played since it was small.

Bad Beat Maker
07-17-2007, 11:21 AM
Call...

monkeymaps
07-17-2007, 11:36 AM
I prob just fold this flop what is everage donk c/r you with there that you beat by much? If your going to raise him on the turn just put him all in your bet sizing is weird. You prob behind a set or T9 always here.

HojoMofo
07-17-2007, 11:39 AM
monkey you seem to put everyone on the nuts

monkeymaps
07-17-2007, 11:46 AM
hey call me a nit if you like but IMO most of the time from a loose passive villian this line is a better hand than TP. as played I think you have to call river I dont disagree with that. I would rather just push/fold flop here. but given villians line here IMO OP is behind.

ImprovinNewbie
07-17-2007, 11:51 AM
call the turn, you cant fold for .4 into $5. the number of times you'll be good here will way compensate for the number of times he caught a K compared to investment. as played for 10% of the pot i call and im made i made the pot so big ont he turn. the flop weirds me out too. he could seriously have any 2 cards. call the C/R on flop, call turn. hope to check down river or call 1/4 to 1/3 pot size bets, fold the rest me thinks.

ImprovinNewbie
07-17-2007, 11:53 AM
thats all he had left, it cant be a suck bet or straight value bet or anything to read at all since thats all he has. if they were 200BB deeper and he made this bet i STILL think you have to call, but at least it would mean something. it's all he has.

ImprovinNewbie
07-17-2007, 11:54 AM
i like this idea berry b3rry much

Warteen
07-17-2007, 11:56 AM
Raising the turn was bad. Obviously you can't fold the river, though.

misterwigs
07-17-2007, 08:14 PM
Yeah, sorry everyone, I should have been a little clearer. Obviously I had to call the river, I was more interested in the comments for all streets.
At the time I thought the pissy turn bet was weakness so I raised it up; thanks to your input I realise that was a mistake. I still don't mind my flop call but I guess a fold is probably better in the long run.
Villain showed TT for a flopped set.