If WSOP ME buy in was $25000 would the prize pool be higher or lower?

[texman]

All other factors the same (e.g. in internet gaming laws)
My guess is that it would bet it would be the same or a slightly higher prize pool . online qualifiers / satellites obviously lower. however direct buy in players may still comprise about the same volume as currently. The event could be trimmed down to about less than a week.

[doublejoker]

Please stop the ridiculous posts

[SuperUberBob]

Impossible to predict. There's no way you can accurately estimate the amount of entrants for next year's WSOP.

[drewjustdrew]

Much higher. Almost double.

[Jiganti]

They should just raise the buy-in to 100,000 dollars. This way the field will be less than 1500, probably even smaller, yet the prize pool would still be very large.

[Silent A]

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They should just raise the buy-in to 100,000 dollars. This way the field will be less than 1500, probably even smaller, yet the prize pool would still be very large.

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WTF? 1500 at 100k? I think you'd be looking at a field size similar to the 50k HORSE. Given the current laws, there would be very few internet qualifiers because they'd almost all keep the cash.

[illini43]

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They should just raise the buy-in to 100,000 dollars. This way the field will be less than 1500, probably even smaller, yet the prize pool would still be very large.

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WTF? 1500 at 100k? I think you'd be looking at a field size similar to the 50k HORSE. Given the current laws, there would be very few internet qualifiers because they'd almost all keep the cash.

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Seriously. Imagine a $1000 satellite tournament that gave entries to 1 out of every 100 entrants. LOL.

[KurtSF]

I used to idly ponder this, and was of the impression that "Hey $10k isn't even a big buy in anymore, not even for the WSOP, they should definitely raise it up!"

But I've since changed my mind. What makes the ME the spectacle that it is is not a stratospheric buyin, or even a monster prize pool (though of course these help), but the fact that it is the only 5000+ person tournament in existence.

I run into CPAs, cab drivers, and you-name-its all the time that talk about taking their shot at the ME. I don't think any non-poker player has even noticed the WPT come to town.

The ME is not the Berkshire-Hathaway of poker tournaments. Its the MSFT.

[___SK___]

And it should be winner take all!

[That Foreign Guy]

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But I've since changed my mind. What makes the ME the spectacle that it is is not a stratospheric buyin, or even a monster prize pool (though of course these help), but the fact that it is the only 5000+ person LIVEtournament in existence.


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There's all sorts of Innurnet donkaments with fields up to 3 times bigger than the WSOP ME.

[FireStorm]

IMO $25k would likely keep the prizepool about the same. I could see 2000-3000 people entering for this price. All the big name pros and celebs would still enter, and satelites at local casinos would simply increase in size. Upping the buy in would serve to have less random names enter, whether that's a good or a bad thing is a matter of opinion.

$100k seems to much to me. You'd be shutting out top pros who have bankroll/staking issues, and satelites would be too expensive for anyone looking for a cheap route in.

[Steveinho]

maybe i'm the only person who really isn't shedding a tear for pros in this instance... sure, i generally root for the pro at the final table just from knowing them better or recognizing their play

but, what's this conspiracy about trying to get the average person out of this tournament? an earlier poster was right when he said that what makes it special is how many people enter it

we're at the end now, and i guarantee every remaining poker player is, at the very least, competent... i know at least four or five have cashed in live tourneys before

in the end, it always whittles down to people who know what they're doing... whoever gets to the final table earned it (along with some well timed luck, i.e. RainKhan)

this is the only tournament that attracts so much publicity, and pretty much, single handedly, made poker mainstream... if it's not broken, why the hell would you try to fix it?

[DrewDevil]

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Please stop the ridiculous posts

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I actually think this is an interesting question, even if only theoretical. So please stop the ridiculous threadshittting.

[thac]

I don't see what the problem is.. if you raise the buyin to $25k, the prize pool would be 2.5x bigger. If you raise it to $100k, the prize pool would be 10x bigger. What seems to be the problem?

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[ImOnWheels]

ME buy in should be upped to $245,876 and the game of choice should be 'No peak'.

[RiverPlay]

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I don't see what the problem is.. if you raise the buyin to $25k, the prize pool would be 2.5x bigger. If you raise it to $100k, the prize pool would be 10x bigger. What seems to be the problem?

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Maybe not the same amount of people willing to pay 2.5X could be the problem.

[texman]

online satellite entrees would change.
e.g.$100000 in online satellite prize pool = 10 entrees now but only 4 entrees with 25K buy in

[GotQuads]

How about a $1 mil buyin and a 50/30/20 payout structure to attract the SnG players

[mirrorman]

$25,000 buyin would definitely make the prize pool larger... people would still sattelite in and the field would hardly shrink at all

[Silent A]

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$25,000 buyin would definitely make the prize pool larger... people would still sattelite in and the field would hardly shrink at all

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I think $25000 is too big a jump for one year. Going to $12000 and seeing how it goes from year-to-year makes more sense to me.

[Jurollo]

12,000 seems good to me, doesnt significantly bump the buyin to joe schmo and adds a good amount to the pool.

2007:
$10k prize pool: 59,784,984
$12k prize pool: 72,481,200 (Same vig)

1st would have been: $10,002,008

[Lampsteen]

What percentage is paying full boat anyway?
Most pros are sponsored / have pieces of them sold off and the internet / satellite put in's are still big even though the gaming law dropped the amount down noticeably.

[Max Raker]

I would like to see a chart of what people think prize pool vs. buy in would look like. I really wonder where the prize pool would be maxed.