Two hands that I had trouble with at 25NL

[TilTandWiN]

Hand 1, no reads on villan.

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SB: $50.95
BB: $60.25
Hero (UTG): $24.45
CO: $22.80
BTN: $24.40

Preflop: Hero is dealt J/images/graemlins/club.gif T/images/graemlins/club.gif (5 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $1.00</font>, 3 folds, BB calls $0.75

Flop: ($2.10) 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif T/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $1.50</font>, BB calls $1.50

Turn: ($5.10) 7/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $3.00</font>, BB calls $3.00

River: ($11.10) K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $4.00</font>, Hero?


Hand 2, no real reads, but he is a bit of a donk.

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SB: $24.75
Hero (BB): $37.75
UTG: $51.70
MP: $32.35
CO: $11.30
BTN: $20.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt A/images/graemlins/heart.gif K/images/graemlins/spade.gif (6 Players)
2 folds, CO calls $0.25, BTN calls $0.25, SB folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1.50</font>, CO folds, <font color="red">BTN raises all-in to $20.00</font>, Hero?

[Sweir]

Hand 1: I would bet between $4.5-$5 on the turn because it is so drawy. As played I would probably call the river because I don't think he calls a raise with worse very often.

Hand 2: Pretty easy call.

[danny8]

hand 1 i just call, i dont think hes gonna call a raise with anything you beat. also i bet the turn a little bigger

hand 2 i have no idea. id imagine he has a mid pp or something, maybe AJ+, maybe JJ+, maybe somehting completely random... if ive only been playing a few hands i prolly just fold. But if ive seen him play wild for a few hands then im felting this.

[TilTandWiN]

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Hand 2: Pretty easy call.

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What do you think his range is here?

[Rev. Good Will]

hand 1: sucks that the flush came in, but you are offered almost 1:4 on this call. I turbo-call it (EDIT - yeah... I would bet more on turn as well)

hand 2: I would need to see btn do similar stupid pushing stuff before I call. This goes into the muck.

[relativity_x]

Hand 1 call and Hand 2 fold.

[Sweir]

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Hand 2: Pretty easy call.

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What do you think his range is here?

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Pretty hard to say w/o more history but if you think villain is donkish then he can turn up with a whole load of [censored] here and you don't even need to be good 50% of the time. People generally play AA/KK slower.

btw, I had a hand pretty similar to this a couple of days ago and I folded. When I thought about it some more I realised that I should have called.

[TheSug]

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SB: $24.75
Hero (BB): $37.75
UTG: $51.70
MP: $32.35
CO: $11.30
BTN: $20.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt A/images/graemlins/heart.gif K/images/graemlins/spade.gif (6 Players)
2 folds, CO calls $0.25, BTN calls $0.25, SB folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1.50</font>, CO folds, <font color="red">BTN raises all-in to $20.00</font>, Hero?

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I'm new to cash and have been in this situation a few times and have been folding it to TAGs but against LAG villains or unknowns I'm at a loss. Is it worth flipping for a buy-in? In what situations should this be call?

[relativity_x]

no.

[CmnDwnWrkn]

Hand 1: Turn bet is too small. Even though you're not offering him great immediate pot odds, drawing hands will usually call that size bet for the implied odds. I would make at least a pot size bet to reduce implied odds and get more money into the pot. Definitely call the river. Probably not a good idea to raise, but folding is out of the question. The only time I would call is if the villain is one of those maniacs who starts pushing every hand the second they sit down at the table. I haven't seen much of that at NL25 though.

Hand 2: I believe calling an all-in pre-flop with anything other than a pocket pair is almost always a bad idea. That is because the opponent going all-in has a pocket pair the vast majority of the time, and it's usually a high one. Against AA or KK, you're cooked, and against any other pair all the way down to 22 you're still behind.

[Jay_Whufc]

Hand 1: I do call, but I expect to see a flush here pretty much every time. As prev said, bet more on turn. Villain c/c the flop and checks the turn, this line is a draw everytime and you gave him good odds to call.

Hand 2: Easy fold, he has AA/KK here a lot and any other time he hasnt its a coin flip against lower PP. I rarely think you are way ahead here and after investing only 1.50 just fold and find a better spot

[IronOsprey]

With no reads I think you have to call in hand 1 but don't be surprised to lose. In hand 2, I'd prefer to be the one making an all-in with AKo rather than calling an all-in (due to fold equity). Fold without a good read.