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Lego05

07-13-2007, 01:06 AM

Villian is 58.46/16.92/.88 postflop agg. over 65 hands.

Ok first let me show you this hand. It happened just a couple of hands/minutes ago. I don't really want any comments on this hand. I know the bluff was thin or -ev. However I strongly felt he was on a flush draw and there was a decent chance I could make him fold even if the J or maybe the Q hit him. So I decided to try it and show him the bluff if it worked to setup for a pot later.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP ($55)
Hero ($72.05)
SB ($58.20)
BB ($32.85)
UTG ($26.20)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif, K/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
2 folds, Hero raises to $2, SB calls $1.75, 1 fold.

Flop: ($4.50) 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $3, SB calls $3.

Turn: ($10.50) Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.

River: ($10.50) J/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
SB bets $4.5, Hero raises to $18, SB folds.

Hero shows K3 for A high.

Ok so I showed that bluff and now very soon after:

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UTG ($55)
Hero ($81.10)
CO ($37.50)
Button ($48.70)
SB ($32.35)
BB ($26.20)

Preflop: Hero is MP with A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, J/images/graemlins/spade.gif. CO posts a blind of $0.50.
1 fold, Hero raises to $2.5, 1 fold, Button calls $2.50, 2 folds.

Flop: ($6.25) 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $4.25, Button calls $4.25.

Turn: ($14.75) 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $10, Button calls $10.

River: ($34.75) 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero ??? Button has about $32 left.

Capone

07-13-2007, 01:10 AM

$20 valuebet. Expect smaller aces to call you here. I think he would have shoved or raise if he made the straight/flush.

infinite_loop

07-13-2007, 06:46 AM

My first thought is to shove. I'd be curious to know how you were thinking he'd play a big hand here, whether he'd slowplay against your aggression or be the aggressor. My guess is he's going to be passive with marginals, which is exactly what you wanted in the first place.

If he liked his hand on the flop, he probably likes his hand on the river. Could he possibly try to draw?

Lego05

07-13-2007, 03:16 PM

Bump.

iwa

07-13-2007, 03:56 PM

I'm not sure I even like a turn bet here. Anyhow, I'm checking this river, hes only calling you with hands that have you beat, even after your bluff play. Blocking is bad here because he will push with so many hands that are improved. I'd check call a smaller sized bet here, but nothing big.

I'd watch out with that bluff on the first hand as well. With those stats, I think you're getting donk called by a large range of hands.

Lego05

07-14-2007, 01:04 AM

I'd still apprciate more commenst on this hand.

LastLife

07-14-2007, 01:09 AM

I would make a blocking bet right here of about 12$. If he shoves I fold. I dont like just potting it here because there are alot of hands that could have you beat, and i also don't like checking here because there is no way you can call a push.

sightless

07-14-2007, 01:16 AM

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I would make a blocking bet right here of about 12$

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I hate these lines, what you are essentially doing is showing weakness, you got to call if you show weakness.

value like 18

LastLife

07-14-2007, 01:20 AM

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I would make a blocking bet right here of about 12$

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I hate these lines, what you are essentially doing is showing weakness, you got to call if you show weakness.

value like 18

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If you do this and he shoves then you are going to have to call him. This goes back to why not just shove on him if you are going to this? It will end in the same result.

sightless

07-14-2007, 01:55 AM

dont we lose value from weaker aces that way ):

Knuckles

07-14-2007, 01:58 AM

I know his stats are still in flux, but given his aggression factor I am going to check this river. If he bets, I am going to call anything that is small, like a 1/4 to 1/3 of the pot. This line feels weak to me, but I don't really like playing for my stack on that board. There could be a lot of two pairs, straights, or flushes that he could have and he is letting you bet his hand for him.

Check_The_Nuts

07-14-2007, 02:32 AM

dude check. There is no value. If he has worse he's just gunna show down and show how good he is at picking off ur bluffs now that u show them.

Waingro

07-14-2007, 04:15 AM

I would cf the river, your stellar image play notwithstanding.

Lego05

07-14-2007, 05:05 AM

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I would cf the river, your stellar image play notwithstanding.

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Sarcasm?