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HBomb
07-12-2007, 10:42 PM
Don't really have any reads on villian, just showed up to the table not too long ago, but I was thinking that my hand was probably good here.


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (5 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter (http://www.pokerhand.org)

BB ($58.65)
UTG ($100.50)
MP ($25.25)
Button ($50)
Hero ($80.15)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, Q/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $2</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $7</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $5.

Flop: ($14.50) 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $10.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $43</font>, Hero ?

homeslice
07-12-2007, 10:49 PM
w/o reads why do you think your good here?

HBomb
07-12-2007, 11:21 PM
Because I think he is shoving with either A) any AdX and 2nd of all him cold calling my reraise preflop in that spot tells me that he is not playing back at me or trying to get more into the pot preflop, if he really had a monster , don't you think he'd be trying to continue pushing preflop?

mertzo
07-12-2007, 11:24 PM
Lol bilfhunter. Srsly this is a easy push, youre getting great odds and your doing really well against his raising range. Stove around a bit and you will see

HBomb
07-13-2007, 12:20 AM
How can it be that easy? He could be cold calling preflop with any JJ/KK/AA, and not to mention he could be taking the aggressive route and shoving with any Adx or KdX possibly if that's what he called with. And it's also not out of the question but there's always the possibility he could have called with 66/77 here.

derosnec
07-13-2007, 12:21 AM
against button raise? all in

edit: you will also lose this a fair number of times. high variance, but +EV imho.

HBomb
07-13-2007, 12:27 AM
Derosnec, I have come to the conclusion that you are StageBoss on Pokerstars, AMIRITE?


Edit: about an hour after I posted this, the player appears to be a 2+2er and claims that he misclicked here... I just wish him good luck in not misclicking in 3 bet pots against me /images/graemlins/smile.gif

Capone
07-13-2007, 01:02 AM
I think this is a call you will see adx here quite often. I think JJ-AA would have RR pf.

Xanta
07-13-2007, 01:09 AM
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I think this is a call you will see adx here quite often. I think JJ-AA would have RR pf.

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That assumption will lose you unspeakable amounts of money in 3bet pots.

Capone
07-13-2007, 01:10 AM
The original raiser was on the button, his button raising range is quite large.

sightless
07-13-2007, 02:01 AM
I call the shove in this spot and fold without the queen of diamonds

terencetsao
07-13-2007, 02:21 AM
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I call the shove in this spot and fold without the queen of diamonds

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i second that
also it is very unlikely villan has AA or KK which makes it more comfortable to call. you are probably aganist AJ with Ad

KEW
07-13-2007, 02:41 AM
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I call the shove in this spot and fold without the queen of diamonds

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AGREE..Without the Qd easy fold...

HBomb
07-13-2007, 02:46 AM
Yea, I'm not that stupid, I wouldn't of posted this hand if I didn't have the Q of diamonds, if I didn't this is an easy muck for sure...

derosnec
07-13-2007, 03:22 AM
you'd be getting 2 to 1. i'm calling without the Qd

corsakh
07-13-2007, 03:29 AM
All in. And chances are, you diamond is almost irrelevant. You either dominate or you dont want a diamond to come.

infinite_loop
07-13-2007, 06:10 AM
This looks like a pretty clear shove. This just looks like a high action situation where you're ahead most of the time.

china_hard
07-13-2007, 06:19 AM
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All in. And chances are, you diamond is almost irrelevant. You either dominate or you dont want a diamond to come.

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