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bored
07-12-2007, 12:24 AM
Villains are 51/10/2.2 and 46/7/.8

Nothing wrong with this, right?

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 4 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

SB: $35.45
BB: $52.15
Hero (UTG): $39.85
BTN: $8.50

Preflop: Hero is dealt 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (4 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $1.00</font>, BTN calls $1.00, SB folds, BB calls $0.75

Flop: ($3.10) K/images/graemlins/club.gif 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (3 Players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Anybody fire on this flop?

Capone
07-12-2007, 12:26 AM
lol. If im the original pre-flop raiser thats a good flop to fire into. The king could definately be in your range. Even if it wasn't there If i'm the original raise, and I get checked into on the flop i make a cbet almost all the time.

bored
07-12-2007, 12:30 AM
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lol. If im the original pre-flop raiser thats a good flop to fire into. The king could definately be in your range. Even if it wasn't there If i'm the original raise, and I get checked into on the flop i make a cbet almost all the time.

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What can I fold here that beats me (besides maybe 44)? Or am I betting for value and/or protecting my hand?

Jzo19
07-12-2007, 12:31 AM
i probably wouldnt cbet into 2 loose players

(fold 2 cbet stats are good , u should probably add it 2 ur HUD) ,

this flop probably hits a ton of hands in their range and they'll call down with middle pair and crap ...so not cbetting is fine

HighSteaks
07-12-2007, 12:32 AM
It's thin I'll admit but I probably represent the king 50% of the time $2.30 or so, but certainly not knocking either way.

bored
07-12-2007, 12:34 AM
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i probably wouldnt cbet into 2 loose players

(fold 2 cbet stats are good , u should probably add it 2 ur HUD) ,

this flop probably hits a ton of hands in their range and they'll call down with middle pair and crap ...so not cbetting is fine

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I have these stats in my HUD.

One had 50% call cbet and 50% fold cbet.

The other had 75% fold cbet and 25% call cbet.

Both had 0% raise cbet and both sample sizes were &gt; 100 hands.

KEW
07-12-2007, 12:35 AM
1 broadway(3 over cards) + FD + SD + 2 LOOSE PASSIVE villains= NO C-BET from me....Villain checking first mean next to nothing...

wildzer0
07-12-2007, 12:38 AM
No way am I cbetting this.The only way I put another dime in the pot is if it's checked through and I hit a set later.

JS Inc
07-12-2007, 12:40 AM
IMO either is fine and I think this depends on your table image at the time. If you have been raising a lot I like a check if you haven't bet.

Bowlboy
07-12-2007, 12:44 AM
I remember reading a while back that it's good to cbet like 90% of the time. At 10NL I used to get away with this a lot, but the decent players there are huge post flop nits and fold &gt; 90% of the time while the fish are still fish. At 25NL, the fish are fish, but there are a lot of thinking players that will float you more often and min raise your cbet with a wider range. Not cbetting this is fine in my opinion. I need to learn to not cbet as often as I have been.

Capone
07-12-2007, 12:53 AM
sorry I mis-read I didnt see there were two players. I still c-bet quite a bit, but with one player its almost all the time.