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microDonk
07-11-2007, 09:51 PM
This hand played out a little strange, but my biggest question is about what to do on the river. I called his flopped C/R because I didn't want to blow away a weak A, and I wasn't as worried about the flush draw being heads-up. When he C/C the turn, I'm putting his range as a big A, 2 pair, or a draw. IMO the river is about the worst card possible, and I really wasn't sure whether to check behind or bet for value. What do you guys think?


Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.05/$0.10 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

SB: $12.15
Hero (BB): $28.75
UTG: $21.50
CO: $7.05
BTN: $10.20

Reads: <font color="blue">Villian is 46/8/2.4 after about 100 hands. Hasn't played many big hands, but has had an average or better hand when he has.</font>

Preflop: Hero is dealt http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/cards/color/6d.gif http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/cards/color/6h.gif (5 Players)
3 folds, SB calls $0.05, <font color="red">Hero raises to $0.40</font>, SB calls $0.30

Flop: ($0.80) http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/cards/color/Ac.gif http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/cards/color/6s.gif http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/cards/color/8s.gif (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $0.70</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $1.40</font>, Hero calls $0.70

Turn: ($3.60) http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/cards/color/2d.gif (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $3.00</font>, SB calls $3.00

River: ($9.60) http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/cards/color/9s.gif (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero ???

Pot Size: $9.60 ($0.45 Rake)

HoldemPokerPlyr
07-11-2007, 09:59 PM
Tough hand to say IMO. You're playing 10NL, I don't think somebody would honestly reraise you with a FLUSH draw. He probably has a worse hand than yours. I'd put him on Ax or maybe even Aces up.

Andercock
07-11-2007, 10:45 PM
I bet ~$5 here because I figure he has a weak ace here and will probably call.

cb4mvp
07-11-2007, 11:13 PM
I don't think you really have to worry about blowing this guy off a weak A if you raise him on the flop, but calling is fine too. River is pretty tough to say here though. I wouldn't always bet this river, it would depend on any reads I had on this guy. This does seem more like 2pr or Ax than a flush, though, so I would bet $6 or so for value on river.

gimmetheloot
07-11-2007, 11:40 PM
all-in

cooker3
07-12-2007, 12:27 AM
Given the range you give him I just push. I think your ahead more times then not

74 games 0.029 secs 2,551 games/sec

Board: Ac 6s 8s 2d 9s
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 68.919% 68.92% 00.00% 51 0.00 { 6d6h }
Hand 1: 31.081% 31.08% 00.00% 23 0.00 { AJs+, A8s, A6s, T7s, 97s, 86s, 75s, AQo+, A8o, A6o, 97o, 86o, 75o }

tme03
07-12-2007, 12:37 AM
Very unlikely to have a straight or flush here, I value bet the river with half pot bet. Big bet will probably see villain fold anything but a flush.

wildzer0
07-12-2007, 12:40 AM
I push and expect to get called by an ace. I 3bet this flop every time though.

Lego05
07-12-2007, 02:14 AM
This is one reason why you 3bet the flop.

As played shove all-in and hope he calls you with an A.

terencetsao
07-12-2007, 02:44 AM
3 bet the flop
and shove the river

microDonk
07-12-2007, 06:57 AM
Thanks for the replies. My standard line would be to 3-bet this flop, but BVB I really didn't want to blow him off his hand. Based on the general consensus it seems as though that was a mistake.

In the end, I felt like a genius when he turned over As4s and I saved big on the river, but the more I thought about it the more this river seemed like a push.

ev_slave
07-12-2007, 08:11 AM
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Tough hand to say IMO. You're playing 10NL, I don't think somebody would honestly reraise you with a FLUSH draw.

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I'm playing 10NL right now and I actually see this often enough. After learning to limp with Aces, new players find this little gem to be tricky with. "He'll discount the FD if I bet/raise, how can I lose!" They don't stick it out though... typically, these guys make a show of strength on the flop, then c/c the turn. Lots of 10NL guys do that though, so a specific read definately helps, but I think villain's line on this hand makes the flush more probable here than maybe it does at other stakes.

HoldemPokerPlyr
07-12-2007, 08:19 AM
What was the outcome of this hand?

microDonk
07-12-2007, 01:03 PM
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In the end, I felt like a genius when he turned over As4s and I saved big on the river, but the more I thought about it the more this river seemed like a push.

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Villian had top pair plus NFD, rivered the flush.