Poker Tracker Stats

[Capone]

25/12/0.5

These are numbers we all see but some of us are un-aware of how to put these numbers into context.

I know the first one is VPIP, the second is PFR, and the 3rd is aggresion factor.

Could someone expand on these and illustrate to me how to use these numbers? I think this is great for everyone as well.

What VPIP is considered laggy, what is tagish?

What PFR is considered laggy and taggy?

What aggression factor is considered aggressive?

What is considered passive?

ANY INFO THAT CAN HELP CATAGORIZE OPPONENTS WOULD BE GREAT!

Thanks guys!

[pmw]

look at the stickies:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showthreaded.php?Cat=0&Number=8009768&page=0&vc=1
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...e=0#Post7758748 (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=7758748&an=0&page=0#Post 7758748)

[Capone]

I took a look at those but they dont clarify how to catagorize your opponents.

[Capone]

Like I mean looking at the numbers what VPIP is tight, what is weak, what is loose.

What aggression factor is very aggressive what is passive?

The stickys don't clarify that I think a few people are on the same boat as me but are to shy to admit it. I'm just trying to be the best player I can be.

[Nogatsira]

Do you have pokerace hud? They even tell how the opponent is as in "loose-agressive/agressive"

[Check_The_Nuts]

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Like I mean looking at the numbers what VPIP is tight, what is weak, what is loose.

What aggression factor is very aggressive what is passive?

The stickys don't clarify that I think a few people are on the same boat as me but are to shy to admit it. I'm just trying to be the best player I can be.

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Tight is anything below 17 in VPIP. A fairly TAG style can be 17/14 or 19/15. Also, a 15/14 style is very TAGgy. I would consider ultra-nit preflop to be 12/10ish or lower (14/7 is another common ratio for these players).

A pure LAG would have stats of at least 25/22 and ranging up to 30/28 or something around there.

A good aggro player usually has stats of 18/16 (leaning more to the TAG side), up to 23/20. I consider this the range inbetween TAG and LAG, which might be semi-tag? I don't know.

Any aggression factor below 1.5 to me is very passive. An AF of 1.5->2.5 is fairly aggressive. 3-4 would be very aggressive and anything above that is hyperaggressive.

edited to add: Players with stats of 25/12 or 18/12 or whatever I would consider to be relatively passive preflop. IMO any PFR that isn't 75% of your VPIP is more passive. I also changed the tag numbers because 18/12 is actually somewhat passive.

[CobraGoat]

Search player name "Pokey"- he has discussed the "trinity" a good deal.

[Capone]

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Like I mean looking at the numbers what VPIP is tight, what is weak, what is loose.

What aggression factor is very aggressive what is passive?

The stickys don't clarify that I think a few people are on the same boat as me but are to shy to admit it. I'm just trying to be the best player I can be.

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Tight is anything below 17 in VPIP. A fairly TAG style can be 17/14 or 18/12. Also, a 15/14 style is very TAGgy. I would consider ultra-nit preflop to be 12/10ish or lower (14/7 is another common ratio for these players).

A pure LAG would have stats of at least 25/22 and ranging up to 30/28 or something around there.

A good aggro player usually has stats of 18/16 (leaning more to the TAG side), up to 23/20. I consider this the range inbetween TAG and LAG, which might be semi-tag? I don't know.

Any aggression factor below 1.5 to me is very passive. An AF of 1.5->2.5 is fairly aggressive. 3-4 would be very aggressive and anything above that is hyperaggressive.

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Thank you very much, this has cleared up the issue for me dramatically this is what I was looking for exactly thank you for taking the time to help me out I really appreciate it.

I guess its more of a personal categorization is it not?

[Capone]

So they are percentages then i guess.

20/10/1.5 Would be a tight passive player

17/15/3 Would be a solid tag

14/10/2 Would be a nit

Am I getting this right?

The first 2 numbers are percentages

[Skleice]

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...e=0#Post8629256 (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=8629256&an=0&page=0#Post 8629256)

[Check_The_Nuts]

right, 23/20/5 or whatever would be a slaggy hyper-aggro player. 30/28/6 is a hyper-aggro lag. etc. etc. You probably won't see any decent hyper aggro lags at these stakes tho.

[Capone]

lol so basically they are maniacs.

So anything over 20 percent vpip gets laggy.

[Capone]

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http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...e=0#Post8629256 (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=8629256&an=0&page=0#Post 8629256)

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Thank you.

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Search player name "Pokey"- he has discussed the "trinity" a good deal.

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And thank you.

[Capone]

waoh that post is accually great.

[Check_The_Nuts]

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lol so basically they are maniacs.

So anything over 20 percent vpip gets laggy.

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ummm I'm hyperaggro. Wouldn't say I'm a maniac. hard to describe really.

[Hoffma]

If you click the icon of the eagle on the poker tracker toolbar, it will take you into the auto-rating process, which will attach labels to these numbers. This will go through your entire database and assign icons and titles to all players with 50+ observed hands. Look at the rating criteria (which is on the 2nd tab) for information on what PT thinks is tight, loose, semi-loose, etc.

If you auto-import while you're playing, there is a check box to auto-rate on the fly. If you check this box, the players at your table will automatically get an icon after 50 hands and will be re-rated each time the timer fires. If you use a HUD, this is extremely helpful because you can better understand your opponents while you're playing them rather than after your session.

[Capone]

so something like 19/17/3 is ideal.

[Nogatsira]

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so something like 19/17/3 is ideal.

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I'd go for 21/18/3

[Capone]

30+ is loose then.

Alright guys thank you all for your input godbless!

[BevillTheDevil]

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so something like 19/17/3 is ideal.

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IMO in the micros whatever is comfortable for you. Some ppl play like a 15/13/3 style and are successful. Some 20+/20+/8 and have the same success. The looser you play the more marginal spots your going to get yourself into, so it really comes down to am I a good enough player/comfortable enough to get in all these marginal spots if yes then loose is probably good for you if not then play tight. But i think as you move up in limits it def is better to loosin up a bit cause being nitty does eventually become exploitable. Though, a nitty image can help increase your bluffin tendencies and FE against better players as well. So it kinda comes down to being comfortable again.

[Capone]

Yea somewhere in between loose and tight is ideal. Maybe somewhere around 22/18/3.5