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Envyme_Mvp
07-11-2007, 02:31 AM
effective stacks 50$ each, folded to button who opens to 1.50
sb calls
I call with 3 /images/graemlins/club.gif4 /images/graemlins/club.gif

Flop 2 /images/graemlins/club.gif6 /images/graemlins/club.gif2 /images/graemlins/diamond.gif

checked around

Turn is 5 /images/graemlins/spade.gif

sb leads for 2

I call hoping button makes move, but button folds

river is an 8 /images/graemlins/club.gif

Villain INSTA shoves 44$............

Lego05
07-11-2007, 02:36 AM
I don't really like your pre-flop call.....I don't like your no raise on turn.

On the river I think this is actually a fold.

Peter Harris
07-11-2007, 04:02 AM
with the straight on the turn with the paired and flush draw board, not raising and raising big is a huge huge huge mistake.

When villain does this on a flushing river it's either the nuts or a huge huge bluff. It's usually the former, and that makes it a fold. With a better read on villain (i.e. see them stacking off big on the river with trash) you can call, but not till then.

iwa
07-11-2007, 05:17 AM
I lead this flop because you have a monster draw.
I don't play SC OOP because they are far less profitable than IP.
I raise the turn because I have a straight with a redraw to the fluh... The Villian also could have a larger flush draw with this small lead.

Genz
07-11-2007, 05:21 AM
fold preflop, fold river. board is paired and your 4 high flush will get you into trouble.

paulnic
07-11-2007, 05:27 AM
this is a fold for me i think he's filled up here or got a big flush cant see him making this play with any other hands... massive overbets like this usually mean massive hands ime. he's prob hoping u have the str8 or flush and cant lay it down. this is a fold

Envyme_Mvp
07-11-2007, 09:28 AM
Should I def. raise turn on paired board?

Genz
07-11-2007, 10:47 AM
on the one hand your holding is pretty fragile and you want to protect yourself from a higher flushdraw.
on the other hand you could be drawing dead and if you are reraised, you can't be really sure that you didn't fold the best hand.
this scenario is the exact reason why it is often a bad idea to play small suited connectors from a bad position.
I'd actually try to keep a low profile here. If the hand was heads-up from the flop, I'd certainly raise here. But 3way, I have to risk that a flush draw can draw. And I hold two blockers, so villain is drawing only at 6 outs. I don't want my money going in the middle here, actually.

Covert Ops...
07-11-2007, 01:42 PM
Agreed, I don't see any reason to just call the PF raise. Even if you had a good read on the villan.

As played, I'm raising the turn. and check folding the river

kylephilly
07-11-2007, 01:54 PM
He has 88.

Envyme_Mvp
07-11-2007, 06:05 PM
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He has 88.

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66 actually. I called though, which in hindsight I view as a huge mistake. I dk if i like ppl's suggestion to raise turn though. FOlding pf seems optimal but i also think i can outplay most ppl at 50nl

boycalledroy
07-11-2007, 07:06 PM
Push turn.

sightless
07-11-2007, 07:44 PM
calling because you hope button will make a move is not a great idea

gimmetheloot
07-12-2007, 12:01 AM
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Should I def. raise turn on paired board?

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absomutherfuckinglutely.

fold river. fast too.

iwa
07-12-2007, 12:02 AM
You have amazing powers to put him on a 1 hand range.