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hennnerz
07-10-2007, 10:58 PM
Prima Poker skin
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
6 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)

Stack sizes:
UTG: $42.95 - 85/46/1.4
UTG+1: $63.70
Hero: $76.65
Button: $96.61
SB: $115.09
BB: $31.30 - 31/10/1.5

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with Q/images/graemlins/club.gif A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $4</font>, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls, Button calls, SB folds, BB calls.

Flop: T/images/graemlins/club.gif 9/images/graemlins/club.gif J/images/graemlins/club.gif ($16.25, 4 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG is all-in $38.95</font>, Hero ???

I am ahead of a lot of 2 pair type hands here, but could be drawing dead with one player to act still...Fold all the time here or...?

wildzer0
07-10-2007, 11:02 PM
I would 3bet preflop. As played I think I fold the flop, You're flush outs are pretty iffy (aside from the straight flush outs of course)

Lusky
07-10-2007, 11:07 PM
fold as played

hennnerz
07-10-2007, 11:08 PM
So you like 3 betting pre with AQ but not 66 against this guy?

RyuSujin
07-11-2007, 12:07 AM
Fold. You may be ahead in terms of hands, but if he has one made right now, then he's smiling wide imagining you praying for the cards you need. What's the sample size of villain? I just don't see a person going nuts like this without the collateral.

Knuckles
07-11-2007, 12:54 AM
Yes. When you hit a pair against this maniac you can make him pay when he hits a lower pair or the same pair with a worse kicker. Unless you hit your 8 to 1 shot and make a set with the sixes he can make a number of over pairs to you. He is calling you anyways, so the sixes are a reverse implied odds situation. Finally you would like to isolate this gentleman and have position on him rather than having the button to act behind you.

tubasteve
07-11-2007, 12:57 AM
i would call against this maniac /images/graemlins/smile.gif (but i like to gamboooooooooool)

joelav128
07-11-2007, 12:58 AM
I'd fold in this spot. With one player behind you this makes it a definite fold in my opinion and I'd still probably fold this in a heads up pot also.

sightless
07-11-2007, 02:06 AM
3bet pf!!!!!

dont 3bet 66 pf ):

as played i fold ):

Pokey
07-11-2007, 10:46 AM
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So you like 3 betting pre with AQ but not 66 against this guy?

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There's a difference between a 2xBB raise and an 8xBB raise. In the other hand (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&amp;Number=11142757&amp;an=0&amp;page=0#Pos t11142757) his raise was minimum; here, it's a huge overbet. I'd REALLY want to know what that meant before I started getting cutesy with either 66 or AQo. The way this guy plays, you're going to have tons of chances to mess with him.

Personally, I think this is a good guy to smooth-call in position and play fit-or-fold on the flop. He looks like he's going to get quite far out of line with weaker hands, and if you can outkick him in a top pair vs. top pair situation, you're going to take big, heaping piles of money from him. That's worth the occasional buck or two here and there.

If I had a hand that I wanted to play against this guy, I'd be smooth-calling all of his big bets and isolation-raising all of his small bets. With a speculative hand, I'd smooth-call small bets and fold to big bets.

In the other hand, your 66 was speculative. You smooth-call to maximize your implied odds and fold when you miss your set. In this hand, your AQ is strong, so you smooth-call (expecting that the huge bet will be sufficient to isolate you) and play fit-or-fold.

If he had bet huge against your 66, you could fold knowing you didn't have proper calling odds. If he had minraised your AQo, you could have reraised to isolate.

ama0330
07-11-2007, 11:17 AM
I snapcall here but I'm a fish. I just feel like he is bluffing a lot here like 30% at least, and thus I'd say that all our outs are good here most of the time, and a small %age of the time maybe even both your overcards!

Antinome
07-11-2007, 01:38 PM
Board: 9c Tc Jc


equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 62.828% 61.92% 00.91% 1839 27.00 { AA }
Hand 1: 37.172% 36.26% 00.91% 1077 27.00 { AdQc }

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 57.058% 55.58% 01.48% 6603 175.50 { QQ+ }
Hand 1: 42.942% 41.46% 01.48% 4926 175.50 { AdQc }

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 56.776% 55.64% 01.14% 9915 202.50 { TT+ }
Hand 1: 43.224% 42.09% 01.14% 7500 202.50 { AdQc }


equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 54.724% 46.24% 08.48% 17853 3276.00 { TT+, AQs+, AQo+ }
Hand 1: 45.276% 36.79% 08.48% 14205 3276.00 { AdQc }


pot odds are 55:39 and that's close enough for me. That more or less matches my equity vs. his worst-case range (==AA) and I'm ahead (pot odds offered are better than equity, not in an absolute sense) the rest of the time.

This is a thin gambool call IMO.