NL25 Bottom 2pair gets raised on turn

[Triggerle]

Villian was an unknown 20/10 over very few hands (I was at the table for 2 orbits)

If I call the min-raise I have $12 left for the river.

EverestPoker Game #1786964919: Table Muscat-10 - $0.15/$0.25 - No Limit Hold'em - 19:25:00 - 2007/07/10
Seat 4: UTG ($7.15)
Seat 5: MP ($33.05)
Seat 6: CO ($1.25)
Seat 1: Hero ($25.00)
Seat 2: SB ($49.70)
Seat 3: BB ($13.85)

*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero[6/images/graemlins/club.gif T/images/graemlins/club.gif]
3 folds, <font color="red">Hero (Button) raises to $1.00</font>, SB calls $0.85, BB folds.

*** FLOP *** ($2.05) [J/images/graemlins/spade.gif 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif T/images/graemlins/spade.gif]
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $2.00</font>, SB calls $2.00.

*** TURN *** ($5.85) [J/images/graemlins/spade.gif 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif T/images/graemlins/spade.gif] [A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif]
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $5.00</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $10.00</font>, Hero ??

[gumpzilla]

I'm inclined to dump it. AJ, AT, JT are all pretty plausible holdings, and KQ got there, too. AQ or AK you're ahead of, but this seems like a pretty strange line from those hands.

[Dsperz]

I agree its an easy fold the only way you wouldnt is if you knew your opponent extremely well and knew they were capable of making a play here. with the info you have given me though dump it.

[Triggerle]

Thanks guys. I was thinking back and forth and finally made the incorrect call.

River is a K/images/graemlins/club.gif and villian insta-pushes.

No need to compound on my mistake with a call, even if it is for $12 only, right?

[gumpzilla]

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Thanks guys. I was thinking back and forth and finally made the incorrect call.

River is a K/images/graemlins/club.gif and villian insta-pushes.

No need to compound on my mistake with a call, even if it is for $12 only, right?

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Yeah, you're beating nothing but bluffs at that point unless this guy happens to like A2 an awful lot.

[bozzer]

with $12 left on a wet board I'd just stick it in for value.

T6s = meh in my book, even from the button but obviously it's situational.

[Genz]

First reaction is "fold".
I think I check behind this turn a lot (I remember what we talked about /images/graemlins/wink.gif ). It's just that this turn is a great card for a lot of hands because it makes a few better 2 pairs and completes a straight draw and a great card to run a semi-bluff.
And c/c c/r as a line is still a pretty strong line, ime. I don't see a hand that you are ahead of, actually. Even a slowplayed KK won't take this line with the turn card which is horrible for him. You have a bluff catcher at this point and you will probably have to risk your whole stack to pick it up.

[Genz]

Correction: you could actually be ahead of AK, AQ, possibly with a flush draw that has 14 outs against you.

[bozzer]

looks like I was off the mark on this one:

Beat by JT, AJ, AT (21 combos) KQ (16 combos), sets (10 combos i think)

Beat AK,AQ (24 combos but discount however much), A/images/graemlins/spade.gifx/images/graemlins/spade.gif (~5 combos), any other random aces he might have floated with (it does happen)

It will be tough to fold for &lt;1/2 pot on the river, so we should probably fold now.

[Genz]

Against a range of TT,JJ,66,As2s,As3s,As4s,As5s,As6s,As7s,As8s,As9s,A T,AJ,JT,KQ you have 14% equity and a clear fold. If you add AsKs, AsQs, you have 16% equity and still a fold. Only if you think he played AK, AQ like this, you have 33% equity and should push. But considering the c/c c/r line, I weight his range more towards the sets, better 2pairs and KQ.