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Weir
06-29-2007, 07:11 PM
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (5 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter (http://www.pokerhand.org)

Hero ($149.75)
Button ($47.45)
SB ($100.55)
BB ($103.75)
UTG ($143.15)

Preflop: Hero is MP with K/images/graemlins/heart.gif, K/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $4</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $12</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $24</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $141</font>, SB calls $76.55 (All-In).

Flop: ($246.55) 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Turn: ($246.55) 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: ($246.55) T/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $246.55

opponent is 13/8. should i fold to his preflop 4 bet or whatever or call and fold after the flop doesn't have a K on it?

Hince
06-29-2007, 07:14 PM
As played, fold on the river.

Kermit
06-29-2007, 07:14 PM
dont set mine with your KK, man.

this is fine.

bubaloo
06-29-2007, 07:58 PM
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As played, fold on the river.

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nice line, Coach me?

R6MC
06-29-2007, 08:33 PM
small 4 bets scare me, but don't post this.

rakes.a.beach
06-29-2007, 08:34 PM
don't?

Rainclouds
06-29-2007, 08:46 PM
I don't put an 13/8 on {AA} here, but {JJ+,AK} with a little less weight on JJ and QQ.

That said, I like to cold call this small 4-bet with KK, to keep QQ/JJ in the game. You're stacking off to AA anyway but we don't want QQ or JJ to fold to a preflop 5-bet shove.
We are heads-up in position postflop, so postflop play will be really easy. Typically he bets any flop, you shove, and most of the time the money is shipped your way.

keikiwai
06-29-2007, 08:47 PM
when you find out he has AA at showdown and build a time machine

tarheeljks
06-29-2007, 09:04 PM
i can't ever tell whether these are veiled beat posts or whether people genuinely wonder if they should fold in these spots.

Fonkey123
06-29-2007, 09:11 PM
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when you find out he has AA at showdown and build a time machine

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Yes, but by the time the hand is over you have lost all your mobniez, and have no more for a time machine. /images/graemlins/frown.gif

keikiwai
06-29-2007, 09:41 PM
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when you find out he has AA at showdown and build a time machine

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Yes, but by the time the hand is over you have lost all your mobniez, and have no more for a time machine. /images/graemlins/frown.gif

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i'm sure there's a paradox in there somewhere

Weir
06-30-2007, 01:22 AM
it is a semi veiled beat post, but at the same time, i still wonder sometimes.

When he did that gay 4 bet, i was like "cool he has aces, i lose" then i went all in and he called and no king came and i lost.

also i noticed over 10k hands i have gotten it all in preflop with KK 9 times and won twice (and the other guy has had AA all but those two times). Not really sure wtf that means. In fact this exact situation where i am really confident the other guy has AA and when i have KK has happened 4 times in 1k hands and i refuse to fold "because it is wrong" or whatever. just making sure im not supposed to be folding or something ?????????? im results oriented

Jamougha
06-30-2007, 01:53 AM
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also i noticed over 10k hands i have gotten it all in preflop with KK 9 times and won twice

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It means your sample size is too small and you run like [censored].

0evg0
06-30-2007, 02:37 AM
Dude,

You just posted a thread asking if you should fold KK preflop for 100xbb.

Read that again for emphasis.