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JROK777
06-29-2007, 02:33 AM
Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
5 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)

Stack sizes:
UTG: $53.15
CO: $92.35
Button: $49.65
SB: $45.80
Hero: $63.60

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is BB with J/images/graemlins/club.gif 8/images/graemlins/club.gif
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $1.75</font>, 2 folds, SB calls, Hero calls.

Flop: 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif ($5.25, 3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG bets $3</font>, SB calls, Hero calls.

Turn: 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif ($14.25, 3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG bets $8</font>, SB folds, Hero calls.

River: 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif ($30.25, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $18</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG raises all-in $40.4</font>.
Uncalled bets: $22.4 returned to UTG.

Results:
Final pot: $88.65

This isn't a normal PF call for me. Should it be? Doyle says in his book that he will call a raise with any 2 suited cards that can make a str8 flush(J8s+107s+96s etc). I called the flop here trying to make 2 pair or trips. On the turn, The board is getting scary for villian. I thought I could win if I caught a card or if the board comes 4 to a str8. The board 4 to a str8 got there, I bet and villian still shoved. I was repping 65s here. I guess villian didn't see the str8 out there, or he's just a donkey that doesn't caren about stacking off. Maybe he had 55. This play is text book SuperSystem. Is this kind of play going to lose playing NL50?

jessyj07
06-29-2007, 02:36 AM
[ QUOTE ]


This isn't a normal PF call for me. Should it be? Doyle says in his book that he will call a raise with any 2 suited cards that can make a str8 flush(J8s+107s+96s etc).

[/ QUOTE ]No you shouldn't call this preflop esp. if you'll play this poorly postflop...no offense intended.

JROK777
06-29-2007, 02:40 AM
I read this line in SuperSystem today and wanted tom try it out. None of this is normal for me. Although I think I am the biggest fish playing NL in the country right now.

jessyj07
06-29-2007, 02:50 AM
If you want to try new stuff out why not move down a level and do it and get compfy? On the other hand most stuff Doyle wrote about is not going to apply to $50NL online games. Plus reads are nice on your opponents. You shouldn't call this raise unless you know that your opponent is tight UTG and is likely to have enough of a hand to pay you off if you hit your hand. Also doing this OOP sucks. For instance...this guy is something like 35/7 so safe to say his raising range isn't very light at all UTG so I can make this call safely with many hands to stack him.

POKERSTARS GAME #10589488681: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.25/$0.50) - 2007/06/24 - 00:20:23 (ET)
Table 'Phyleus IV' 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: tinga81 ($33.45 in chips)
Seat 2: jessyj ($99.90 in chips)
Seat 3: BWDreamer ($9.50 in chips)
Seat 4: xCLiPx ($20 in chips)
Seat 5: june5th ($56.70 in chips)
Seat 6: JayGee ($69.20 in chips)
BWDreamer: posts small blind $0.25
xCLiPx: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to jessyj [6d 7d]
june5th: raises $1.50 to $2
JayGee: folds
tinga81: folds
jessyj: calls $2
BWDreamer: folds
xCLiPx: folds
*** FLOP *** [7h 2d 6c]
june5th: bets $2
jessyj: raises $5 to $7
june5th: calls $5
*** TURN *** [7h 2d 6c] [Js]
june5th: checks
jessyj: bets $13
june5th: raises $13 to $26
jessyj: calls $13
*** RIVER *** [7h 2d 6c Js] [Qs]
june5th: bets $21.70 and is all-in
jessyj: calls $21.70
*** SHOW DOWN ***
june5th: shows [Ks Kc] (a pair of Kings)
jessyj: shows [6d 7d] (two pair, Sevens and Sixes)
jessyj collected $111.15 from pot
june5th said, "wow"