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Villain is 35/15/2 over 500 hands.... I have no notes on him. Check here or bet 3/4 pot? River plan?
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saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>
BB ($49.20)
UTG ($23.35)
<font color="#C00000">MP ($59.15)</font>
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($55.75)</font>
Button ($80.25)
SB ($52.50)
Preflop: Hero is CO with 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
UTG calls $0.50, MP calls $0.50, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2.5</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, UTG folds, MP calls $2.
Flop: ($6.25) 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, Q/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP bets $3</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $10</font>, MP calls $7.
Turn: ($26.25) A/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP checks, Hero ...
ajmargarine
06-28-2007, 11:06 PM
Huh? The guy is 35/35 over 500 hands and he limps here? I'm not too sure about preflop after two limpers from CO. ANd I see no reason to raise the flop.
Oh my bad 35/15. You don't like a flop raise to try to take it down and maybe fold a little bit better Ace? Also to get to a free river if the turn card is bad. I really expected him to just fold. Also, UTG is 60/12
Check_The_Nuts
06-28-2007, 11:14 PM
I would only bet here if I thought he'd hit river big if I didn't. In which case 17->18 seems abotu right (and about the size of a bet I'd like on the river). Your really trying to extract from KK/KQ here, since you only at best split with any other ace.
ajmargarine
06-28-2007, 11:15 PM
I doubt he's folding a better hand to your raise. Call, reevaluate turn.
Check_The_Nuts
06-28-2007, 11:17 PM
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I doubt he's folding a better hand to your raise. Call, reevaluate turn.
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2nd part doesn't make sense?
ajmargarine
06-28-2007, 11:23 PM
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I doubt he's folding a better hand to your raise. Call, reevaluate turn.
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2nd part doesn't make sense?
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Call the flop bet. If villain leads strongish into Hero on a non-6 turn, you can just fold on the turn.
Check_The_Nuts
06-28-2007, 11:26 PM
yeah, villian checked though?
and I think I fold to any turn bet from villian bigger than half pot.
ajmargarine
06-28-2007, 11:41 PM
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yeah, villian checked though?
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Yes, but does he check if you just call the flop?
Some thoughts... I should have included more in the original post, I was still playing, sorry I won't do that anymore. Also I am not sure this was post worthy either but whatever.
Preflop-
Folding is definitely standard. Against these opponents, specifically UTG, I think I can get away with raising this. If need be I'd no problem folding the trip aces or even a 2 pair hand if it really seemed to dictate it.
Flop-
Calling might be better, I'd usually just call here but recently I have really been hating the spots it puts me in on the turn when he bets again. I tried a raise, I actually like it in this spot occasionally, if he bet out on the turn again I'd fold here I think. I would have made note if his limping range included big hands but I had nothing like that so I am pretty sure that 15% includes his big hands from this position, he's not limping AJ+ (Unfortunately I think that includes the hands I really get value from here KK+QQ).
Turn-
I like a check here if I think he will fire at the river (His river aggression was ~1). This also allows me to showdown and not bloat the pot more. In the unlikely case he has a draw though a turn check sucks. If I bet turn and get called I am praying he checks river. This is a rare instance but I'd really hate this spot if I called flop and he fired again on the turn I think I'd have to muck and hate it.
River-
I am looking to get about a 2/3 pot bet in somewhere on the turn or river. If I check the turn I think I could expect a Q to pay me off a reasonable amount of the time. Of course if he does have a draw I let him play his hand well.
Thoughts?
Nick C
06-28-2007, 11:49 PM
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Preflop-
Folding is definitely standard.
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FWIW, you are allowed to over-overlimp. Personally, I prefer that to folding a hand with nice potential like A6s when in late position.
Nick C
06-28-2007, 11:51 PM
I agree with what's been said already. I like just calling the flop bet and going from there.
jessyj07
06-29-2007, 01:23 AM
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Preflop-
Folding is definitely standard.
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As played I like a call on the flop. Also as played I like checking the turn because he called a fairly dry flop when the only draw was JT and I don't think we'll get much if we bet turn from hands we beat and inducing bluffs is fun.
Check_The_Nuts
06-29-2007, 01:26 AM
lol wow yeah obviously call flop>raise flop. Sorry AJ, I was in [censored] mode or something there.
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