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zacd
06-28-2007, 03:57 PM
back to back hands vs a 32/15.5/1.9. if these hands had not occurred right after each other i probably wouldnt even blink but i kinda felt played in these hands.


Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

SB: $38.75
BB: $26.35
UTG: $23.65
MP: $61.20
CO: $12.95
Hero (BTN): $70.75

Preflop: Hero is dealt K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif A/images/graemlins/spade.gif (6 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">MP raises to $1.00</font>, CO folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $3.75</font>, 2 folds, MP calls $2.75

Flop: ($7.85) 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 Players)
MP checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $6.00</font>, <font color="red">MP raises to $12.00</font>, Hero folds

Pot Size: $25.85 ($0.95 Rake)



Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

SB: $26.10
BB: $23.65
UTG: $70.35
MP: $12.95
Hero (CO): $61.00
BTN: $38.65

Preflop: Hero is dealt A/images/graemlins/heart.gif K/images/graemlins/heart.gif (6 Players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $1.00</font>, MP folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $3.75</font>, 3 folds, UTG calls $2.75

Flop: ($7.85) J/images/graemlins/spade.gif 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 Players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $6.25</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises to $12.50</font>, Hero folds

Pot Size: $26.60 ($1 Rake)


good, bad, ugly?

corsakh
06-28-2007, 03:59 PM
First is an easy push.

fees
06-28-2007, 03:59 PM
folding hand 1 is insane, shove

dont bet the flop hand 2

derosnec
06-28-2007, 04:07 PM
they're both 200bbs+ in hand 1

fold equity aside, pushing in hand 1 is roughly a -$8 EV play (i have you at about 35% equity)

yeedog
06-28-2007, 04:16 PM
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First is an easy push.

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Why is this an easy shove? Hero has $70 villian has $60, that's 200+BB. The pot only has 25 bucks in it so bascailly you are advocating a massive over bet? What is villian going to call with? A made flush, maybe top set, and if he's bad maybe TPTK. If TPTK = AdQx then you're K high flush draw is no good.

I can't see how this is an easy all in at all. I atleast call and see what the turn brings, i could see an arguement for a raise as villian mini-reraised us. But you can't call an all-in if he pushes back.

TJgniL
06-28-2007, 04:19 PM
I agree w/ not folding flop in hand 1, but would a call be better w/ position or does that turn our hand face up?

I check behind in hand 2 if it occured after hand 1.

zacd
06-28-2007, 04:20 PM
if the hands were reversed I might call the first hand, but i cant imagine pushing really being that great/easy.

monkover
06-28-2007, 04:40 PM
pushing hand 1 imo is really bad!!

skiller3
06-28-2007, 04:41 PM
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dont bet the flop hand 2

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And the reason for this, especially after 3-betting preflop would be??????

creamfillin
06-28-2007, 04:48 PM
I hate a push in hand one, you're not even drawing to the nuts, you probably have like close to zero fold equity too - yuck. Hand two nothing you can do really.

whizzle
06-28-2007, 08:07 PM
i would probably check the flop in hand 1 to draw for free. U don't have a lot of folding equity and usually a Reraised pot in NL 25 and a check on the flop by the initial raiser means a monster (my experience)

wildzer0
06-28-2007, 08:36 PM
Don't fold the flop in the 1st hand, you're a little too deep to shove, but at least call.

I usually check behind on hand 2.