First post- KK facing all in flop raise

[Fractured_simile]

Hi all, this is my first post- so please be nice!

what would you do in this fairly common spot?

Game #4186098383: Hold'em NL (£0.15/£0.25) - 2007/05/23 - 17:40:54 (UK)
Table "MissVicky" Seat 2 is the button.
Seat 2: Vvjawsvv sits out
Seat 3: co007 (£20.52 in chips)
Seat 4: Jon100912 (£20.19 in chips)
Seat 5: bebeto (£25 in chips)
Seat 6: 1out1der (£22.45 in chips)
co007: posts small blind £0.15
Jon100912: posts big blind £0.25
Pwnage joins the table at seat #1
bebeto: posts big blind £0.25
Pwnage: posts big blind £0.25
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to 1out1der [Ks Kc]
bebeto: checks
1out1der: raises to £1.50
Pwnage: calls £1.25
co007: calls £1.35
Jon100912: folds
bebeto: folds
----- FLOP ----- [6s 9c 7c]
co007: checks
1out1der: bets £3.50
Pwnage: raises to £23.50 and is all-in

villain runs at a very nitty 16/3, no particular history. I folded this hand, because his raise screams set/straight- i don't think he ever has a draw or bluff here and two pair is unlikely given his pre-flop stats. what troubled me when i looked at this recently is how often does he have TT-QQ?

[Middelemiel]

At these limits, I think you can play KK as it was AA. I do, and most of the times it works /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[greggg230]

why couldn't he have a draw here? huge overbets often indicate draws at these stakes. I think you're good against his range unless you really know him. People do this crap with A7 against a pre-flop raiser.

also, the mantra around here is that PFR should be to 4BB + 1/limper.. so raising to $1 (1 pound) is good

[Fractured_simile]

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At these limits, I think you can play KK as it was AA. I do, and most of the times it works /images/graemlins/smile.gif

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can you clarify please- i didn't have AA in vilains range as he would certainly have 3 bet, i wouldn't have played AA any different here either.

[greggg230]

disregard what I said about pfr.. didn't see two people posted bb

[Perk76]

Convert your hands prior to posting. Link provided has the FAQ's to help you.
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Hand in question you can probably let it go if you feel that the person is a nitty 16/3 player (whats the post flop agg?). You dont have alot invested, and folding is not a bad option. He basically is letting you off early in this hand.

[Perk76]

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People do this crap with A7 against a pre-flop raiser.

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16% tight players dont wake up and decide to push garbage hands. If the villan in question was a maniac/lag aggressive I can see merits to your statement. Not with the initial read of the OP.

[Middelemiel]

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At these limits, I think you can play KK as it was AA. I do, and most of the times it works /images/graemlins/smile.gif

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can you clarify please- i didn't have AA in vilains range as he would certainly have 3 bet, i wouldn't have played AA any different here either.

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Sorry, didn't read the HH well enough. Thought this was all preflop, my mistake!

[Fractured_simile]

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Convert your hands prior to posting. Link provided has the FAQ's to help you.
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...=47#Post7385526 (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=7385526&an=0&page=47#Pos t7385526)

Hand in question you can probably let it go if you feel that the person is a nitty 16/3 player (whats the post flop agg?). You dont have alot invested, and folding is not a bad option. He basically is letting you off early in this hand.

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thanks- just trying it out

Cryptologic
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.15/$0.25
4 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)

Stack sizes:
UTG: $25
Hero: $22.45
SB: $20.52
BB: $20.19

Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is Button with :ks :kc
UTG (poster) checks, [color=#cc0000]Hero raises to $1.5</font>, SB calls, 2 folds.

Flop: :6s :9c :7c ($3.5, 2 players)
SB checks, [color=#cc0000]Hero bets $3.5</font>.
Uncalled bets: $3.5 returned to Hero.

Results:
Final pot: $3.5

[fees]

i call

[Fractured_simile]

and expect to see....?