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corsakh
06-28-2007, 02:51 PM
Second orbit, villain is unknown.

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button ($144.95)
SB ($55.35)
BB ($102.55)
Hero ($50.50)
MP ($20.05)
CO ($59.50)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, BB calls $1.50.

Flop: ($4.25) T/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $0.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4</font>, BB calls $3.50.

Turn: ($12.25) 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $8.5</font>, BB calls $8.50.

River: ($29.25) K/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $30</font>, Hero folds.

Standard?

C4LL4W4Y
06-28-2007, 02:53 PM
2nd orbit, I'm folding this too.

greggg230
06-28-2007, 03:08 PM
Against an unknown, definitely folding this.

Fractured_simile
06-28-2007, 03:17 PM
just made my first post about something very similar, this looks just like a made flush representing a bluff, I seem to this all the time and would probably fold too unless i knew the villain was a complete maniac

Vyse
06-28-2007, 03:18 PM
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this looks just like a made flush representing a bluff

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lololol credit to BDFD?

corsakh
06-28-2007, 03:19 PM
Flush is probably the last thing I worry about here.

Fractured_simile
06-28-2007, 03:25 PM
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this looks just like a made flush representing a bluff

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lololol credit to BDFD?

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/images/graemlins/blush.gif quite right, KT is far more likely as played- i should think before i post!

relativity_x
06-28-2007, 03:30 PM
bb took one of the ugliest lines i've ever seen. I'm not sure what he's potting here. The only thing I worry about is kt/set/maybe a5 once in a blue moon.

I don't know if I can make this fold here with his donk bet/call, check/call,pot line. If we were actually beat here, I'd expect a check/raise river not a donk pot bet.

Perk76
06-28-2007, 03:59 PM
1 pair is no good here, fold is fine on river.

ama0330
06-28-2007, 03:59 PM
I approve

fees
06-28-2007, 04:00 PM
bet more on the turn.. call this I dont fold to these [censored] lines that make no sense at 50nl

monkover
06-28-2007, 04:09 PM
def a fold on the river.

corsakh
06-28-2007, 04:26 PM
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bet more on the turn.. call this I dont fold to these [censored] lines that make no sense at 50nl

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I would be busto if I called everytime villain line did not make sense /images/graemlins/smile.gif

evagaba
06-28-2007, 04:37 PM
I think he flopped a set. He puts out a tiny 1/4 PS bet on the flop, then calls your raise. Checks the turn to let you bet and then leads the river.

If he has what is is representing, I'm not sure why he is not valuing betting the river instead of AI?? Still, I gotta fold this.

skiller3
06-28-2007, 04:56 PM
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bet more on the turn.. call this I dont fold to these [censored] lines that make no sense at 50nl

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I would be busto if I called everytime villain line did not make sense /images/graemlins/smile.gif

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QFT

infinite_loop
06-28-2007, 06:32 PM
I like checking the turn for pot control.

godofPOPOV
06-28-2007, 10:00 PM
i think the line makes sense.
PF call with TT, 22, or 33.

small bet too induce a re raise from overs or higher pocket pair.

then since he re raised he calls and checks the turn to let the hero bet.

then he just bets the end because he assumes the hero will call the bet or be too scared to bet again. maybe he coulda check raised, maybe the villans bet on the river wasnt good, but i think it makes good sense with a flopped set.

EMc
06-28-2007, 10:22 PM
He has Tx here a lot, a lot IMO. If I had to assign a range, Id say its about 35%ish KT, 10% sets, weird 2pr, etc, 55% Tx. We are getting 2-1 here, only gotta win once outta 3 times, and I think we will more than 50% of the time, im calling here.

corsakh
06-28-2007, 10:41 PM
Why is he doing this with a ten?