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The_Taj
06-28-2007, 09:57 AM
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($51.90)
Hero ($87.40)
CO ($47.65)
Button ($24.80)
SB ($34.90)
Villain($48.35)

Preflop: Hero is MP with K/images/graemlins/spade.gif, K/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Villain raises to $3.5</font>, Hero calls $1.50.

Flop: ($7.25) 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Villain checks, Hero checks.

Turn: ($7.25) 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Villain bets $5.5</font>, Hero calls $5.50.

River: ($18.25) 7/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Villain bets $39.35 (All-In)</font>, Hero calls $39.35.

Final Pot: $96.95

How would you play it postflop if you had no knowledge about the villain?

Spurious
06-28-2007, 10:05 AM
1. I wouldn't call preflop or is there a reason for the call?

2. Bet the flop. PSB. The flop probably didnt hit your opponent.

3. Turn: PSB now, there are two flushdraws out there.

4. The river is weird. He probably missed his flush draw. Maybe AKs or so.. I think the call is good.

greggg230
06-28-2007, 10:05 AM
4-betting pre-flop is good. Opinions vary, but I think just calling is meh.

Please, please, please do not check behind on the flop. Bet $6. I'd seriously consider folding if he raises you. 99% of the time someone checks a A/K/Q high flop after 3-betting pre-flop, they have a monster. I doubt he's check-raising with just TPTK.

As played, raise the turn - $16 is good.

Call river bet. He's probably not 3-betting with 89. He might have QQ or might have drawn a set.

shoxbb6
06-28-2007, 10:21 AM
Reraise preflop, guy minraises.
Bet flop, raise turn, call river.

Arp220
06-28-2007, 10:35 AM
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Reraise preflop, guy minraises.
Bet flop, raise turn, call river.

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^what he said

relativity_x
06-28-2007, 10:38 AM
Oh my....this hand needs a lot of work.

Preflop: 4 bet to 12

Flop: Bet pot here.

Turn:Raise him.

River: With no knowledge, I'd say he has air around 75% of the time here because this is a go away bet. Hands he might play like this are 88-JJ/kq/qj. I think you're only losing to 89s/77 here. I think the river is a must call.

RMLewis
06-28-2007, 10:46 AM
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River: With no knowledge, I'd say he has air around 75% of the time here because this is a go away bet. Hands he might play like this are 88-JJ/kq/qj. I think you're only losing to 89s/77 here. I think the river is a must call.

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I agree, must call.
For future reference, YOU should be the one putting villain all-in with your KK on a Q high flop... not the other way around

skiller3
06-28-2007, 12:55 PM
Please reraise this pre.

With no reads (important) I think the river is a call.

sirklas
06-28-2007, 01:01 PM
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Call river bet. He's probably not 3-betting with 89. He might have QQ or might have drawn a set.

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He really might have drawn a set? Tell me why did he reraised pre-flop with a middle PP?

Unlikely...

sirklas

WHITEBOYAEHS
06-28-2007, 01:01 PM
grunch... i like the smooth call preflop if he 3bet-potted you because agaisnt good players thats the only way to get action with a monster like kk...however his remin makes me think hes a retard and i would just 4bet-pot his azz

flop....why the hell are you checking???????????????? bet like 6.8

turn....raise....dude what are you doing ??????? in no limit holdem you want to get the money in with the best hand...kk is good 95% of the time here...get paid off before its too late

river...snap call and then promise yourself not to butcher a hand like this again

fees
06-28-2007, 01:02 PM
preflop: 4bet
flop: bet
turn: raise
river: call

WHITEBOYAEHS
06-28-2007, 01:02 PM
it looks to me like he backdoor straighted...dude you need to turn up the aggression

greggg230
06-28-2007, 01:05 PM
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Call river bet. He's probably not 3-betting with 89. He might have QQ or might have drawn a set.

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He really might have drawn a set? Tell me why did he reraised pre-flop with a middle PP?

Unlikely...

sirklas

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I said he might have. It's possible, right? I didn't say it was likely; in fact, I obviously meant it was unlikely, since I advised him to call. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

Daniel LeClaire
06-28-2007, 01:11 PM
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grunch... i like the smooth call preflop if he 3bet-potted you because agaisnt good players thats the only way to get action with a monster like kk...however his remin makes me think hes a retard and i would just 4bet-pot his azz

flop....why the hell are you checking???????????????? bet like 6.8

turn....raise....dude what are you doing ??????? in no limit holdem you want to get the money in with the best hand...kk is good 95% of the time here...get paid off before its too late

river...snap call and then promise yourself not to butcher a hand like this again

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I agree with everything he said, especially preflop.