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Nick C
06-28-2007, 02:41 AM
I'm really at the table because of the two fishy players to my right, but Button in this hand is 27/24/2 after 66 hands. I don't really know what his 3-betting standards might be, but, because it's NL25, I was thinking big PP or big ace despite his stats, although for him perhaps that big ace doesn't have to be AK.

Possibly there's no magic line here and you just need to mix it up, but I thought I'd check with you guys:

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($30)
UTG ($12.10)
Hero ($30.70)
CO ($38.05)
Button ($29.65)
SB ($24.75)

Preflop: Hero is MP with K/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $3.5</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls $2.50.

Flop: ($7.35) 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $5.25</font>, Hero calls $5.25.

Turn: ($17.85) 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, Button checks.

River: ($17.85) T/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $10 . . .</font>

Yaboosh
06-28-2007, 02:44 AM
Pretty standard. He almost certainly has a big pair. He may get stubborn and call your lead on the river. I don't really like leading the turn, or the flop, so you really have little other choice in this hand.

BevillTheDevil
06-28-2007, 02:50 AM
villian is 27/24 sounds like he probably 3bet light. Maybe 4bet pf?? This does seem to me a pretty tough spot to extract. Id probably donk the flop. I think most villians expect us to slow play trips here so maybe bettin flop will get a raise out of him. then maybe c/r turn?? if villian checks behind turn then led river. I think this line looks like a 99-KK type hand and if villian has like JJ+ i think this probably extracts most value not sure tho.

shoxbb6
06-28-2007, 03:23 AM
I'm 4betting this pf all day oop.
On the turn, i kinda like a weak lead of up to ~1/2 pot, then put the rest in on the river.

MusashiStyle
06-28-2007, 03:49 AM
I like this line alot. you might even try underbetting the river to induce a bluff.
when i'm 12 tabling i prob just raise flop though.

Panic__NL
06-28-2007, 04:34 AM
I dont like playing AK OOP, but I am not sure if his stats means he 3bets light, if you are on a table full of limpers he can get these stats easily without 3betting too much.
As played I like your line, not much value in leading out turn, he probably has a big pair and is drawing thin. KK is even drawing dead, so well played.

Sweir
06-28-2007, 05:50 AM
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I'm 4betting this pf all day oop.
On the turn, i kinda like a weak lead of up to ~1/2 pot, then put the rest in on the river.

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Yeah I 4bet pf too OOP, especially against this villain. I think if your not going to c/r the flop I would probably lead the turn for enough that I could shove the river or something.

ama0330
06-28-2007, 06:08 AM
I dont think I 4bet this OOP, so preflop is okay.

Flop is good, but I bomb the turn. The reason is that the stop and go line looks MUCH more like a bluff than the stop and check turn then bomb river line. I would expect an aggressive villain to try and take you off if you bet like 9 or 10 on the turn, but no reasonable villain is going to put any more money in once you flat call that flop and check the turn.

I suppose you could try checkraising the river, but you're walking a fine line there - theres no guarrantee that he'll bet.

creamfillin
06-28-2007, 06:38 AM
I rarely donk, but a turn lead would be sexy here as any raise is going to scare him off. Then getting the rest of your money in on the river will be cake.

That Fish
06-28-2007, 10:18 AM
Isn't this a push pf?

mertzo
06-28-2007, 10:21 AM
Postflop this is a great line. Preflop just calling is fine, dunno what you should make of a 3b from a random @ NL25