NL 25: 3 betting line with TT

[whizzle]

I normally don't 3-bet TT but i thought this was a good spot. villian who raised was 21/11/1.7 and the early limper was 48/11/1.6. I was faced with a though decision on the turn??? how do u play this?

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

SB: $22.88
Hero (BB): $25.00
UTG: $49.15
MP: $49.20
CO: $25.78
BTN: $24.65

Preflop: Hero is dealt T/images/graemlins/club.gif T/images/graemlins/heart.gif (6 Players)
UTG folds, MP calls $0.25, CO folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $1.25</font>, SB folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $4.00</font>, MP calls $3.75, BTN folds

Flop: ($9.35) 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif 3/images/graemlins/club.gif 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $6.50</font>, MP calls $6.50

Turn: ($22.35) K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero ?????</font>

[C4LL4W4Y]

Bleh, weird spot. Since you only have about $15 behind and a scare card showed up on the turn, your only bet is going to be a shove. Shoving the turn is only going to get you called by better hands (usually, he might show up with 77-99 here because he doesn't believe you have the K). But c/c is dangerous because he doesn't seem particularly aggro. The pot's pretty big, I'm probably c/c'ing to make it look like my cbet got snapped and I'm scared of the K. But I don't know TBH.

[whizzle]

but was this 3-bet ok in general?

[greggg230]

I don't really like 3-betting TT from BB, but it's not bad. That turn really sucks, but I'd just check. If he has like 77 or something, he's gonna check behind you probably. Gotta fold to a bet, I think.

[C4LL4W4Y]

Ah yeah, I didn't see that was the original question. It's usually a toss-up for me, primarily because raising villain only raises 11% of his hands and his coming over a limper, so we should tighten it a bit. However, UTG is super loose, and if villain knows that then its def a 3b. I still think you're ahead, so a 3b is ok.

[Maneh]

3bet its OK;

I preffer c/c; If u shove, villain only pays w hands that beat u... and now we can induce him to bluff;

[morny]

Dont like the 3bet here for a couple of reasons:

1) Were OOP
2) Villains Raising Range is tight enough albeit from the button and id much prefer raising a 17%+ PFR
3) Limper is very loose calling 50% of his hands, what if both call youve to act first on a big pot

Whats your plan after the flop, your very likely to see an overcard either on the flop or turn, youve no information when betting the flop and if he calls the flop then your in trouble again acting OOP. If you c/r and flop bet your likely to be pot committed. In summary your going to be in a bad position alot of the times and your going to have to invest $10.50 of your stack to win $4 of his if we see a flop

[robinmbuk]

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It's usually a toss-up for me, primarily because raising villain only raises 11% of his hands and his coming over a limper

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Even given this information there's a very wide range of non premium hands villian could be raising otb.. KJ/AJ/AT/QJ ect. My pfr is ~10% and I'd be raising these, so I think 3 bet is good.

[shoxbb6]

I'm pushing this.