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chris216
06-27-2007, 11:30 AM
Villain is about 46/12/1.25 over 50 hands, even though I think his stats were a bit tighter and more aggressive at the time the hand was played. Is this fine? What kind of range do you give him? What if the flop was rainbow, making it the driest flop ever? Would you slow down then?


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($27.65)
Hero ($60.20)
MP ($40.65)
CO ($26.10)
Button ($93.80)
SB ($131.55)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, SB calls $1.75, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: ($4.50) 9/images/graemlins/club.gif, 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 4/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $3.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $7</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $25.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $129.55</font>, Hero calls $32.70 (All-In).

Turn: ($192.25) 3/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: ($192.25) 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $192.25

mugatu668
06-27-2007, 11:32 AM
You can fold to his 4-bet.
edit: idk, this could be an overpair

LordBrun
06-27-2007, 11:33 AM
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Villain is about 46/12/1.25 over 50 hands, even though I think his stats were a bit tighter and more aggressive at the time the hand was played.

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derosnec
06-27-2007, 11:38 AM
i think i call the 3bet since we are in position. since we have two aces, there are not many ways he can have A9, and i don't think he's going crazy with K9/Q9/J9. if the flush gets there on the turn, you have outs. if it doesn't and he leads big, then you can figure out odds/range on the turn and what to do. if he has KK-TT, then he only has two outs, but i guess problem is that you don't want a scare card on turn to kill your action.

so, uh, hmmm . . . i think i still call his minraise rather than re-raise given his AF.

wslee00
06-27-2007, 12:02 PM
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You can fold to his 4-bet.
edit: idk, this could be an overpair

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he's pot commited after he 3-bets...

OP - your 3-bet should have been an all-in.

Tking4unc
06-27-2007, 01:43 PM
Agree with above, I call the small 3 bet and re-evaluate when the turn. In this case the flush hit and I'd probably check behind should he check, then call a bet on the river or even value bet if he checked to me

Chomp
06-27-2007, 01:58 PM
IMO, from this villain, that flop c/r is a VALUE line with a hand that can beat AA 90% of the time. It is not an information line, or a deception line with XcXc, or even a value line with 9x/TT-KK (although clearly the other 10% of the time it will be one of these hands).

Generally though, IMO this is a value line with better than AA. So I call and hope to spike 2p/set and see if we can get to s/d with that being good.

relativity_x
06-27-2007, 02:11 PM
umm, I wouldn't 3bet his c/r here. He's not doing this with a draw. It's more likely a set/over pair, so you avoid losing a lot to a set here by calling. I wouldn't worry about the flush hitting. I tried to call down to river.

relativity_x
06-27-2007, 02:13 PM
I would go as far as saying his c/r is never a bluff given his AF. It's either TT+/set.

Upgrade_U
06-27-2007, 02:24 PM
atleast a set here, call the c/r and try to get a cheap showdown

ReptileHouse
06-27-2007, 03:03 PM
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umm, I wouldn't 3bet his c/r here. He's not doing this with a draw. It's more likely a set/over pair, so you avoid losing a lot to a set here by calling. I wouldn't worry about the flush hitting. I tried to call down to river.

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This is pretty accurate, although a check/minraise is also often complete trash saying "your overcards missed that flop, sir."

I call the min-raise with the plan of calling down reasonable bets and betting if checked to.

chris216
06-27-2007, 05:27 PM
Like I said, when I played this hands, PAHUD showed his stats as something like 30/15/6 or something IIRC. Don't you think a lot of people check-minraise draws? Or even anything that beats A high? Some like to donkbet with these hands and some like to check-minraise. Am I wrong?
So what kind of flop do you reraise his check-raise on?
What would you have done if the 9c was Kc instead?
After you call the check-minraise, what will you do if the turn is an overcard? Everything we could get value out of will be scared. I mean I honestly considered calling his cr, but I still can't decide what the best line is.

skiller3
06-27-2007, 05:36 PM
I would just call his flop c/r. As played, call the 4-bet because you have sick odds and this is an overpair a reasonable percentage of the time.

infinite_loop
06-27-2007, 06:21 PM
I just don't understand why you 3-bet the flop.