PDA

View Full Version : Fold or not ???


DickieBets
06-27-2007, 10:59 AM
This hand has been haunting me. The villain was a TAG 12/7 or something like that - I've made the mistake of giving a TAG too much credit for being skillful in the past, but he had to have had a full house here - right ? I was also wondering maybe he had J-Q of diamonds - maybe even A-K !!! ? But to my way of thinking - bluffing here would take either alot of guts or alot of stupidity - but I am often surprised at 10NL. I would say that my image would be TAG. I figured that he c-bet on the flop and if he had A-K - I would have expected a TAG to fold to my reraise unless he correctly put me on a flush draw - but then you'd think the river would have scared him. The more I look at it - the more I hate how I played it - I went from strong on the flop to weak on the turn - any suggestions on how I should have played it - maybe he thought a pair of Aces was good ?!?

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.05/$0.10 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

villain (SB): $7.10
Hero (BB): $12.95
UTG: $3.60
MP: $10.20
CO: $17.65
BTN: $6.70

Preflop: Hero is dealt K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (6 Players)
2 folds, CO calls $0.10, BTN calls $0.10, <font color="red">villain raises to $0.40</font>, Hero calls $0.30, 2 folds

Flop: ($1) 4/images/graemlins/club.gif 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 Players)
<font color="red">villain bets $0.70</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1.40</font>, villain calls $0.70

Turn: ($3.80) 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 Players)
villain checks, Hero checks

River: ($3.80) A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 Players)
<font color="red">villain bets $3.65</font>, Hero folds

Pot Size: $7.45 ($0.15 Rake)

mugatu668
06-27-2007, 11:02 AM
call

relativity_x
06-27-2007, 11:06 AM
bad fold here.

The only reasonable hand he's raising preflop and has you beat is AA/88. I would disregard AA with his turn check. I really love your flop raise because he's probably cbetting, and his check on the turn shows that. Instacall. I doubt he has a full house here more than 10%

greggg230
06-27-2007, 11:08 AM
Wow, definitely don't fold here. You are going to see a small -medium pair here often. You're getting way better than 2:1, which is all you need to call. I wouldn't even mind a raise here; he's probably going to call a reasonable one if he has an ace. If he comes over the top with a re-raise, well, then you need to think about it, but you're definitely ahead here a ton of the time.

Also, don't min-raise the flop. I'd probably just call, but if you want to raise, make it substantial. As it is, he's getting 3.10:7 = 4.5:1 ish. He's not folding anything to that.

XHitman014
06-27-2007, 11:11 AM
wtf

I look forward to responses on this one. It's just not a very big pot &lt;100bbs &amp; you put him on exactly...88/22. I think AA is out of question considering the flop/turn action. Please call/raise.

ama0330
06-27-2007, 11:13 AM
this is such a simple call.

NSchandler
06-27-2007, 11:15 AM
Push. He's only got about $1.50 left so he'll call with any piece of the board. But please don't fold here. His range is much much wider than AA/88.

fees
06-27-2007, 11:17 AM
uh
1. dont minraise, ever
2. shove the river, you have teh nuts (he doesnt have a house here like ever)
3.???
4.profit

maccamack
06-27-2007, 11:21 AM
Shove&gt;call&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;fold

greggg230
06-27-2007, 11:21 AM
I didn't notice how small his stack is. Obvious shove

Disconnected
06-27-2007, 11:21 AM
Out of curiosity, how small would his bet have to have been in order for you to call? If he did indeed have a full house, he didn't play it well.

relativity_x
06-27-2007, 11:28 AM
[ QUOTE ]
I didn't notice how small his stack is. Obvious shove

[/ QUOTE ]

DickieBets
06-27-2007, 11:32 AM
I'm sure the advice is right, but this is what really frustrates me at 10 NL - I just can't fathom why someone would bet like that on the river - I'm probably the only player at 10NL who would even think about folding in this situation - you don't have to play 10 NL long to see that bluffing is -EV.

BTW - why is minraising on the flop bad ? I know when I get minraised like that - I get worried - but I'm obviously turning into a nit. It usually seems to mean raise for a free card for a draw or a set. What's better when on a draw like I am ?

wslee00
06-27-2007, 12:12 PM
[ QUOTE ]
wtf

[/ QUOTE ]

shove &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; call &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; fold

Warteen
06-27-2007, 12:33 PM
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
wtf

[/ QUOTE ]

shove &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; call &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; fold

[/ QUOTE ]