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microDonk
06-26-2007, 10:02 PM
Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.05/$0.10 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

Hero (SB): $23.75
Villian (BB): $17.05
UTG: $16.90
MP: $5.40
CO: $3.15
BTN: $34.80

Reads: <font color="blue">Villian is 29/3/1.17 after about 60 hands.
He got his stack by calling from BB with ATo, flopping top two and stacking the table donk when he filled up on the river.</font>

Preflop: Hero is dealt A/images/graemlins/heart.gif A/images/graemlins/spade.gif (6 Players)
UTG folds, MP calls $0.10, 2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $0.65</font>, Villian calls $0.55, MP calls $0.55

Flop: ($1.95) J/images/graemlins/spade.gif 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif (3 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $1.90</font>, Villian calls $1.90, MP folds

Turn: ($5.75) 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $4.50</font>, <font color="red">Villian raises all-in to $14.50</font>, Hero ???


In retrospect, I think I should have checked the turn, as I felt a set was a likely holding (I actually said to my buddy on the flop this felt like a hand to get setted on) and it would give me an opportunity for a free/cheap draw to the flush.

With that being said, can we fold here, or given the pot odds and the redraw is this a call? Please comment on the call/fold decision, as well as whether or not a turn checked would have been wise. Thanks.

Edited: I forgot I wasn't in position, couldn't guarantee a free draw. Oops.

homeslice
06-26-2007, 10:05 PM
I like your play... you have to bet the turn. As played, your behind, fold to his push.

thedopplegangers
06-26-2007, 10:53 PM
i would have c/r the turn figuring u still have outs if ur behind and if he has nothing u can get him off his hand.

cooker3
06-26-2007, 11:43 PM
Well I did some poker stoving and got these results.
Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

616 games 0.005 secs 123,200 games/sec

Board: Js 7h 6s 3s
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 64.610% 64.61% 00.00% 398 0.00 { AhAs }
Hand 1: 35.390% 35.39% 00.00% 218 0.00 { 77-66, AsQs, AJs, AsTs, As9s, As8s, Ac7c, Ad7d, As7s, As6s, AJo }



So it's a call for me

vixticator
06-26-2007, 11:46 PM
[ QUOTE ]
AsQs, AJs, AsTs, As9s, As8s

[/ QUOTE ]Not possible.

wslee00
06-26-2007, 11:50 PM
[ QUOTE ]
Well I did some poker stoving and got these results.
Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

616 games 0.005 secs 123,200 games/sec

Board: Js 7h 6s 3s
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 64.610% 64.61% 00.00% 398 0.00 { AhAs }
Hand 1: 35.390% 35.39% 00.00% 218 0.00 { 77-66, AsQs, AJs, AsTs, As9s, As8s, Ac7c, Ad7d, As7s, As6s, AJo }


[/ QUOTE ]
dude - besides having impossible combinations - that's a horrible range ure giving him.

orange
06-26-2007, 11:59 PM
dont bet the turn without a plan. i would typically either c/c or b/call.