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RichC.
06-26-2007, 08:51 PM
FTP 40k, $163.

Reads: My image is fairly tight, although I did win a pot
with T5o while in the BB vs a guy just giving away his chips.

BB: I think can be squeezing with a pretty wide range since no one has shown any real strength. Thoughts on my line?


Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $20/$40
9 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)

Stack sizes:
UTG: $4605
UTG+1: $4210
MP1: $3285
MP2: $3510
MP3: $2185
CO: $8340
Hero: $4280
SB: $4620
BB: $5510

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is Button with Q/images/graemlins/club.gif J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">MP1 raises to $80</font>, 2 folds, CO calls, Hero calls, SB calls, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to $360</font>, 2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $1400</font>

Austiger
06-26-2007, 10:34 PM
This would be awesome if you had AA. I never believe someone who does this.

bigbabyjesus
06-27-2007, 12:30 AM
Spew. People don't squeeze that light usually.

blankoblanco
06-27-2007, 01:32 AM
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This would be awesome if you had AA. I never believe someone who does this.

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Mench
06-27-2007, 01:36 AM
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This would be awesome if you had AA. I never believe someone who does this.

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fold once it gets 3 bet.

Foucault
06-27-2007, 01:36 AM
a. the squeezer isn't squeezing
b. you'll get looked up by pretty much his entire range cuz it seems like you could have TT at best here
c. fold PF (the first time)

RichC.
06-27-2007, 02:27 AM
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c. fold PF (the first time)

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You really fold QJ on the button in a min raised pot?

JSchnett
06-27-2007, 03:37 AM
this is suicide

RichC.
06-27-2007, 03:55 AM
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This would be awesome if you had AA. I never believe someone who does this.

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Why exactly do I have to have AA here to do this? I agree that I tend not believe it when it happens, but if you are only doing this with AA you might be missing out on some dead money in the pot.

nath
06-27-2007, 04:51 AM
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c. fold PF (the first time)

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You really fold QJ on the button in a min raised pot?

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i'd rather raise than call here

PhatPots
06-27-2007, 01:28 PM
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c. fold PF (the first time)

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You really fold QJ on the button in a min raised pot?

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Absolutely, QJo is worthless.

You are gonna to have so many problems when you hit a Q or J and you are outkicked.

with regard to the 4-bet, I hate it. If he flat calls, how are you proceeding? Check/fold unless you flop two pair or better?

Soulman
06-27-2007, 02:04 PM
Just joining the bandwagon here, you get no respect from me in a spot like this. Most of the time you end up seeing someone do this with mid-pairs.

Austiger
06-27-2007, 04:36 PM
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This would be awesome if you had AA. I never believe someone who does this.

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Why exactly do I have to have AA here to do this? I agree that I tend not believe it when it happens, but if you are only doing this with AA you might be missing out on some dead money in the pot.

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And if he pushes?

nath
06-27-2007, 05:09 PM
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This would be awesome if you had AA. I never believe someone who does this.

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Why exactly do I have to have AA here to do this?

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Because no one ever believes you when you do this, and anyone who is 3-betting with a remotely normal range is getting it in 100% of the time

RichC.
06-28-2007, 07:52 PM
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This would be awesome if you had AA. I never believe someone who does this.

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Why exactly do I have to have AA here to do this?

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Because no one ever believes you when you do this, and anyone who is 3-betting with a remotely normal range is getting it in 100% of the time

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Fair enough, but youre off on the 100% part since the BB folded in this hand. I really didnt believe that the BB had a good hand and was truly stealing the dead money.