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Shoe Lace
06-26-2007, 11:29 AM
Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.02/$0.05 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

SB: $4.13
BB: $6.39
UTG: $4.30
Hero (CO): $5.38
BTN: $8.64

Preflop: Hero is dealt http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/cards/color/9s.gif http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/cards/color/Kh.gif (5 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $0.20</font>, BTN calls $0.20, 2 folds

Flop: ($0.47) http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/cards/color/7h.gif http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/cards/color/Kc.gif http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/cards/color/8c.gif (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $0.35</font>, BTN calls $0.35

Turn: ($1.17) http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/cards/color/6h.gif (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $1.00</font>, BTN calls $1.00

River: ($3.17) http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/cards/color/7s.gif (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $1.00</font>, Hero ???

Pot Size: $4.17 ($0.15 Rake)

I've been trying to open my game up a little and raising things like this from LP if it's folded to me. I'm not used to playing with questionable kickers though.

Is this an automatic call on the river with no reads? I think it is, but with no reads I didn't feel like I could be ahead.

I would be calling $1 to win $4. So many hands beat me though.

What do you think of the turn bet btw? I was going to check here, but with 3 to a straight and a flush draw being possible I felt I had to protect my hand more so than getting a cheap showdown -- should I be check/calling instead allowing draws to catch up because my kicker is too gross to put more $ into the pot?

Reef
06-26-2007, 11:46 AM
wtf are your cards and board cards

Shoe Lace
06-26-2007, 11:50 AM
Hmm? Hit F5 maybe to refresh if your browser isn't loading them. They are the rounded 4-color deck of the LegoPoker converter.

Amirsen
06-26-2007, 11:52 AM
It's kind of hard to play without kicker but I think if you call the river bet you have played this hand perfectly. You have to call because you checked and he could be betting a bustet flushdraw straightdraw or even a worse king. maybe hes got nothing at all. betting the river would have been dumb. i guess you could have checked the turn because of your straightdraw but protection is fine on nl 5 i guess. well played.

Reef
06-26-2007, 11:54 AM
fold pf unless you're pretty sure they'll all fold behind

River depending on who it is, I'll either bet $2.50 or c/c if I feel they're on a draw or have something marginal that will bet river but not call a river bet.

as played super easy insta call

Shoe Lace
06-26-2007, 12:22 PM
Reef, what kind of villain types will you lead out on the river? vpip/pfr/aggro levels -- or does this go beyond numbers and you only do it when the villain is a super passive station who has been known to call down with a weak TP?

I suppose I should have waited more than a few hands to start making questionable raises PF. Lately I've found to have MUCH better results when I start off playing aggressive (and am taking down pots, with or without showdowns).

For some reason people at this level don't care about your stats or how you're playing in a big picture sense, but they tend to fear you a whole lot more if you get off to a good start.

Vyse
06-26-2007, 12:32 PM
Fold PF

Turn bet is too big, bet like .85.

Easy river call

black666
06-26-2007, 02:04 PM
Fold PF. As played I would shutdown after villain called the c-bet. The board is so dangerous, you can't beat much. Depending on villain I would check/call down or check/fold.

Reef
06-26-2007, 08:24 PM
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Reef, what kind of villain types will you lead out on the river? vpip/pfr/aggro levels -- or does this go beyond numbers and you only do it when the villain is a super passive station who has been known to call down with a weak TP?


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the most obvious are people who we have tons of value against: fish, stations, showdown monkeys.

I am less likely to bet against straightforwards , tricky , nitty , or very agros.